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	<title>Comments on: A Very Different Bible</title>
	<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/02/a-very-different-bible/</link>
	<description>se wo were fi na wosan kofa a yenki</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 03:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Agony of an American Wilderness (The Anthropik Network)</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/02/a-very-different-bible/#comment-45392</link>
		<dc:creator>The Agony of an American Wilderness (The Anthropik Network)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This puts the conflict in stark terms, and ultimately, Carlson may be more correct than he realizes: the kind of Christianity he espouses that betrays the Bible, logic, and Jesus Christ himself is a deeply civilized way of life. Locals blame activists for trying to destroy their way of life, but of course, it is a way of life that ultimately destroys itself—but only once it has destroyed the living earth it is rooted in. It's already run that course once before, when the locals' ancestors destroyed the old growth forest and reduced it to the "Allegheny Brush Heap." According to MacDonald, the forest that stands there now is one the locals rebuilt themselves, but there is scant evidence to support that narrative. Exploitation of the forest stopped only when there was nothing left to exploit. It was the federal government that declared the Allegheny a National Forest, not the locals. It's only since the 1980's that the locals have had a chance to prove MacDonald's claim right, but at this critical moment, they have instead deeply aligned themselves with logging compaies based in Germany and Oregon that have come to finish the job. This is the moment in which the locals can prove MacDonald right, and lay an actual claim to helping rebuild the forest their ancestors destroyed, but so far, they are simply proving that humans will continue to repeat the same mistakes as their forebears, endlessly, so long as they are able to do so. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] This puts the conflict in stark terms, and ultimately, Carlson may be more correct than he realizes: the kind of Christianity he espouses that betrays the Bible, logic, and Jesus Christ himself is a deeply civilized way of life. Locals blame activists for trying to destroy their way of life, but of course, it is a way of life that ultimately destroys itself—but only once it has destroyed the living earth it is rooted in. It&#8217;s already run that course once before, when the locals&#8217; ancestors destroyed the old growth forest and reduced it to the &#8220;Allegheny Brush Heap.&#8221; According to MacDonald, the forest that stands there now is one the locals rebuilt themselves, but there is scant evidence to support that narrative. Exploitation of the forest stopped only when there was nothing left to exploit. It was the federal government that declared the Allegheny a National Forest, not the locals. It&#8217;s only since the 1980&#8217;s that the locals have had a chance to prove MacDonald&#8217;s claim right, but at this critical moment, they have instead deeply aligned themselves with logging compaies based in Germany and Oregon that have come to finish the job. This is the moment in which the locals can prove MacDonald right, and lay an actual claim to helping rebuild the forest their ancestors destroyed, but so far, they are simply proving that humans will continue to repeat the same mistakes as their forebears, endlessly, so long as they are able to do so. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Godesky</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/02/a-very-different-bible/#comment-16537</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Godesky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 20:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Mario.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Mario.</p>
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		<title>By: Mario A. Grajales Le</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/02/a-very-different-bible/#comment-16535</link>
		<dc:creator>Mario A. Grajales Le</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had read some of your articles and it . . . . was really amazing . . . 
I will keep on reading you.

I think, you have something really interesting here, and thanks for sharing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had read some of your articles and it . . . . was really amazing . . .<br />
I will keep on reading you.</p>
<p>I think, you have something really interesting here, and thanks for sharing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Godesky</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/02/a-very-different-bible/#comment-1601</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Godesky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/02/a-very-different-bible/#comment-1601</guid>
		<description>On Paul as betrayer: this would get into a pretty lengthy article in its own right, as I have quite a bit of evidence to pull from here.  In the meantime, try reading &lt;em&gt;The Historical Jesus&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;The Birth of Christianity&lt;/em&gt;, both by John Dominic Crossan.

&lt;blockquote&gt;It's also interesting that you are still a subscriber and unwilling to use the common venacular "God". What does this mean? I'm curious, do you still subscribe to an apocalyptic end?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I'm still a Christian--of sorts.  A Gnostic, perhaps?  It's hard to say.  As a pantheist, I believe we're all part of G-d.  I also believe it's possible to align one's psyche with that divinity, such that any distinction between oneself and G-d is arbitrary.  I believe this feat has been achieved at least twice: with Jesus, and with First Shaman.

I believe that the Bible was written by man people in many different times, and thus, comes to approximate the will of the Pantheos--as any good mythology does.  I believe that its amazing consistency on the point of civilization's evil is a telling damnation of our current way of life.

I believe the most meaningful "apocalypse" is that which is now upon us--the end of civilization.  I believe now is the time to place your bets as to which prophetic outline will prove most accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Paul as betrayer: this would get into a pretty lengthy article in its own right, as I have quite a bit of evidence to pull from here.  In the meantime, try reading <em>The Historical Jesus</em> and <em>The Birth of Christianity</em>, both by John Dominic Crossan.</p>
<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s also interesting that you are still a subscriber and unwilling to use the common venacular &#8220;God&#8221;. What does this mean? I&#8217;m curious, do you still subscribe to an apocalyptic end?</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m still a Christian&#8211;of sorts.  A Gnostic, perhaps?  It&#8217;s hard to say.  As a pantheist, I believe we&#8217;re all part of G-d.  I also believe it&#8217;s possible to align one&#8217;s psyche with that divinity, such that any distinction between oneself and G-d is arbitrary.  I believe this feat has been achieved at least twice: with Jesus, and with First Shaman.</p>
<p>I believe that the Bible was written by man people in many different times, and thus, comes to approximate the will of the Pantheos&#8211;as any good mythology does.  I believe that its amazing consistency on the point of civilization&#8217;s evil is a telling damnation of our current way of life.</p>
<p>I believe the most meaningful &#8220;apocalypse&#8221; is that which is now upon us&#8211;the end of civilization.  I believe now is the time to place your bets as to which prophetic outline will prove most accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: Survival Acres</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/02/a-very-different-bible/#comment-1584</link>
		<dc:creator>Survival Acres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/02/a-very-different-bible/#comment-1584</guid>
		<description>Some good points.  The bible was written to and for Jews (look up kinsmen-redeemer law).   There never was a "plan" for Christianity in the teachings of Christ. What we have today is a outright abomination and ripoff.  

Your speculation about Paul being the betrayer is interesting, but you offered no historical basis, from whence did you arrive at this conclusion?  

It's also interesting that you are still a subscriber and unwilling to use the common venacular "God". What does this mean?  I'm curious, do you still subscribe to an apocalyptic end?  And the apocalypse has already long since occurred. What we are witnessing today, as you already know, is the  collapse of civilization, but it hasn't anything at all to do with the Bible or the plan of God.  I call it "Forcing the Rapture" - an insidious plan to hoodwink the world into embracing their evil machinations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some good points.  The bible was written to and for Jews (look up kinsmen-redeemer law).   There never was a &#8220;plan&#8221; for Christianity in the teachings of Christ. What we have today is a outright abomination and ripoff.  </p>
<p>Your speculation about Paul being the betrayer is interesting, but you offered no historical basis, from whence did you arrive at this conclusion?  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also interesting that you are still a subscriber and unwilling to use the common venacular &#8220;God&#8221;. What does this mean?  I&#8217;m curious, do you still subscribe to an apocalyptic end?  And the apocalypse has already long since occurred. What we are witnessing today, as you already know, is the  collapse of civilization, but it hasn&#8217;t anything at all to do with the Bible or the plan of God.  I call it &#8220;Forcing the Rapture&#8221; - an insidious plan to hoodwink the world into embracing their evil machinations.</p>
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