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	<title>Comments on: The Appalachian Confederation</title>
	<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/</link>
	<description>se wo were fi na wosan kofa a yenki</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LifeParticles.com &#187; The New Tribal Revolution</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/#comment-161197</link>
		<dc:creator>LifeParticles.com &#187; The New Tribal Revolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 23:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/#comment-161197</guid>
		<description>[...] Is Neo-tribalism [rand.org, PDF, 297 KB] humanity&#8217;s future? An ideology influenced by the Ishmael series by Daniel Quinn and that predicts the collapse of society and the necessity of â€?walking awayâ€?, it&#8217;s growing globally with neo-tribes already established. The Anthropik Tribe&#8217;s goal is to ultimately form a &#34;functional hunter-gatherer tribe in the future&#34;. Anthropik is part of The Appalachian Confederation, a /neo-tribal league/tribe of tribes/rhizome/ with it&#8217;s own council, annual festival and plans for an army. Also, check out this movie about modern tribalism. Related Posts: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Is Neo-tribalism [rand.org, PDF, 297 KB] humanity&#8217;s future? An ideology influenced by the Ishmael series by Daniel Quinn and that predicts the collapse of society and the necessity of â€?walking awayâ€?, it&#8217;s growing globally with neo-tribes already established. The Anthropik Tribe&#8217;s goal is to ultimately form a &quot;functional hunter-gatherer tribe in the future&quot;. Anthropik is part of The Appalachian Confederation, a /neo-tribal league/tribe of tribes/rhizome/ with it&#8217;s own council, annual festival and plans for an army. Also, check out this movie about modern tribalism. Related Posts: [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Godesky</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/#comment-89985</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Godesky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/#comment-89985</guid>
		<description>Asheville seems to be a pretty happening place these days.  As for the Confederation, all goes according to plan&#8212;that is, slowly.  The Second Mountain Festival didn't work out so well, so we're putting more into the Third this year.  We'll announce it here in a few months.  If you're interested, step one would be coming up to join us for a weekend in West Virginia, where we'll be hoping to attract others from up and down Appalachia.  A lot of this is still somewhat premature, but it's never too early to start building some relationships, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asheville seems to be a pretty happening place these days.  As for the Confederation, all goes according to plan&mdash;that is, slowly.  The Second Mountain Festival didn&#8217;t work out so well, so we&#8217;re putting more into the Third this year.  We&#8217;ll announce it here in a few months.  If you&#8217;re interested, step one would be coming up to join us for a weekend in West Virginia, where we&#8217;ll be hoping to attract others from up and down Appalachia.  A lot of this is still somewhat premature, but it&#8217;s never too early to start building some relationships, right?</p>
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		<title>By: sduarte@xs4all.nl</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/#comment-89412</link>
		<dc:creator>sduarte@xs4all.nl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/#comment-89412</guid>
		<description>Dear Jason,

I read the 30 theses and the Appalachian Confederacy with great interest.  I am thinking of moving from Europe to Asheville or thereabouts.  I'm a deep ecological future primitive teacher and writer.  What is happening now in your development and with the Appalachian Confederacy?  Anything?  

Hope to hear from you.

Suzanne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jason,</p>
<p>I read the 30 theses and the Appalachian Confederacy with great interest.  I am thinking of moving from Europe to Asheville or thereabouts.  I&#8217;m a deep ecological future primitive teacher and writer.  What is happening now in your development and with the Appalachian Confederacy?  Anything?  </p>
<p>Hope to hear from you.</p>
<p>Suzanne</p>
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		<title>By: gg3</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/#comment-46612</link>
		<dc:creator>gg3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/#comment-46612</guid>
		<description>Chuck, I'll be getting in touch via email some time from tonight to the next couple of days.  I'm a bit behind right now, have to write to Jason also.  Much to discuss.  -G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck, I&#8217;ll be getting in touch via email some time from tonight to the next couple of days.  I&#8217;m a bit behind right now, have to write to Jason also.  Much to discuss.  -G</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/#comment-46545</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/#comment-46545</guid>
		<description>Hey, GG3.

I'm originally from Oakland, ended up somehow in Portland.

I love the Mendocino area, and would definitely be interested in exploring options there.

At this point, the Fellowship of the Coast is still very much a work in progress, and I won't spend much time hashing over the various incarnations it could take, if that indeed is what you were talking about.

E-mail me if you wanna chat about what you're planning on doing, I'd love to hear! slumberelegy at gmail.

- Chuck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, GG3.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m originally from Oakland, ended up somehow in Portland.</p>
<p>I love the Mendocino area, and would definitely be interested in exploring options there.</p>
<p>At this point, the Fellowship of the Coast is still very much a work in progress, and I won&#8217;t spend much time hashing over the various incarnations it could take, if that indeed is what you were talking about.</p>
<p>E-mail me if you wanna chat about what you&#8217;re planning on doing, I&#8217;d love to hear! slumberelegy at gmail.</p>
<p>- Chuck</p>
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		<title>By: gg3</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/#comment-46426</link>
		<dc:creator>gg3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/#comment-46426</guid>
		<description>I'm in the San Francisco / Oakland California area, my group is planning to acquire land in the Humboldt/Mendocino county area, and I see serious potential for collaboration here.  We range from hunter-gatherers to permaculturists to ec0-industrials (I'm one of the latter but I also recognize that HG mode is ultimately the most sustainable &#38; resilient, thus I'm supporting our HG efforts, and thus I'm hanging out here).  We have a clearly-stated educational &#38; outreach focus, which also includes hands-on research and publication.  

Before I go into more detail about our community &#38; our land-buying plans, I want to learn more about y'all and what you're planning.  

Re. "sustainability insurance," we've come up with the same idea.  HGs could also engage with local school systems and teach the kids of agriculturals and villagers: in addition to the obvious skill sharing, this is also "proactive community defense":  the agriculturals won't attempt to conquer the tribals if they feel the tribals are part of their "we," and no better way to do that then by building strong bonds between the children of agriculturals &#38; villagers, and those of the tribals &#38; HGs.  

Re. tribal telecom:  I'm a telephone systems engineer with a decent amount of historical knowledge of the field, so this presents a very interesting set of challenges.  In our group I've told the HGs, half-jokingly, "don't worry, I won't pester you to have telephones in your huts &#38; treehouses, we'll just set up a telephone/internet hut near your site so you can use it when you choose and ignore it otherwise."

This is one potential model: an independent telephone &#38; data network, hard-wired, and potentially using 1930s-era technology on the telephone side (we have the capability to make that happen, and we know people who have the materials on-hand to do it).  

Another potential model is the oldschool posts: regular mail &#38; messages carried on horseback between villages.  This would have to run on a daily basis with three to five day delivery to any point in the local region in order to be of much use, but in theory it's possible for a region to do it.  And the way to avod trouble with the US Postal monopoly on first-class letter mail is to call it "intra-company mail" or "courier service."  

For rapid communication between villages, don't forget the use of sunlight and mirrors.  It should be possible for each village within sight distance of others, to build a wooden tower containing a simple apparatus consisting of a mirror (or polished metal surface) attached mechanically to a telegraph-like key.  You aim the device to focus the sunlight on a target in the tower a few mountain tops away, and then proceed to communicate in Morse (oldschool ASCII:-).  This also has the advantage of security compared to drums.  And in theory it could operate on clear nights by moonlight, if your methods allow the use of ground-glass lenses i.e. terrestrial telescopes or binoculars by which the recipient could watch the sender more closely to ascertain the flickerings of moonlight reflected in Morse.  I could go on in more detail if anyone's interested...  (and the foregoing is just off the top of myÂ head at 2:00AM).

So, is anyone still reading this thread?  Anyone still interested in northern California?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the San Francisco / Oakland California area, my group is planning to acquire land in the Humboldt/Mendocino county area, and I see serious potential for collaboration here.  We range from hunter-gatherers to permaculturists to ec0-industrials (I&#8217;m one of the latter but I also recognize that HG mode is ultimately the most sustainable &amp; resilient, thus I&#8217;m supporting our HG efforts, and thus I&#8217;m hanging out here).  We have a clearly-stated educational &amp; outreach focus, which also includes hands-on research and publication.  </p>
<p>Before I go into more detail about our community &amp; our land-buying plans, I want to learn more about y&#8217;all and what you&#8217;re planning.  </p>
<p>Re. &#8220;sustainability insurance,&#8221; we&#8217;ve come up with the same idea.  HGs could also engage with local school systems and teach the kids of agriculturals and villagers: in addition to the obvious skill sharing, this is also &#8220;proactive community defense&#8221;:  the agriculturals won&#8217;t attempt to conquer the tribals if they feel the tribals are part of their &#8220;we,&#8221; and no better way to do that then by building strong bonds between the children of agriculturals &amp; villagers, and those of the tribals &amp; HGs.  </p>
<p>Re. tribal telecom:  I&#8217;m a telephone systems engineer with a decent amount of historical knowledge of the field, so this presents a very interesting set of challenges.  In our group I&#8217;ve told the HGs, half-jokingly, &#8220;don&#8217;t worry, I won&#8217;t pester you to have telephones in your huts &amp; treehouses, we&#8217;ll just set up a telephone/internet hut near your site so you can use it when you choose and ignore it otherwise.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is one potential model: an independent telephone &amp; data network, hard-wired, and potentially using 1930s-era technology on the telephone side (we have the capability to make that happen, and we know people who have the materials on-hand to do it).  </p>
<p>Another potential model is the oldschool posts: regular mail &amp; messages carried on horseback between villages.  This would have to run on a daily basis with three to five day delivery to any point in the local region in order to be of much use, but in theory it&#8217;s possible for a region to do it.  And the way to avod trouble with the US Postal monopoly on first-class letter mail is to call it &#8220;intra-company mail&#8221; or &#8220;courier service.&#8221;  </p>
<p>For rapid communication between villages, don&#8217;t forget the use of sunlight and mirrors.  It should be possible for each village within sight distance of others, to build a wooden tower containing a simple apparatus consisting of a mirror (or polished metal surface) attached mechanically to a telegraph-like key.  You aim the device to focus the sunlight on a target in the tower a few mountain tops away, and then proceed to communicate in Morse (oldschool ASCII:-).  This also has the advantage of security compared to drums.  And in theory it could operate on clear nights by moonlight, if your methods allow the use of ground-glass lenses i.e. terrestrial telescopes or binoculars by which the recipient could watch the sender more closely to ascertain the flickerings of moonlight reflected in Morse.  I could go on in more detail if anyone&#8217;s interested&#8230;  (and the foregoing is just off the top of myÂ head at 2:00AM).</p>
<p>So, is anyone still reading this thread?  Anyone still interested in northern California?</p>
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		<title>By: Mountain Festival 2006 Announcment (The Anthropik Network)</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/#comment-29533</link>
		<dc:creator>Mountain Festival 2006 Announcment (The Anthropik Network)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/#comment-29533</guid>
		<description>[...] Why should you be interested in a trek into the rocky, mountainous heart of West Virginia? Besides the all-important TAZ we create for a few precious days, last year's Mountain Festival was incomplete. The Appalachian Confederation's official birthday is still 17 September, but on the first year anniversary, it's still a Confederation of just one tribe. We're talking to a few tribes, from New York to Florida, about turning the aspiration of the Appalachian Confederation into a reality. If it's an aspiration you share, then Seneca Rocks is where you need to be. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Why should you be interested in a trek into the rocky, mountainous heart of West Virginia? Besides the all-important TAZ we create for a few precious days, last year&#8217;s Mountain Festival was incomplete. The Appalachian Confederation&#8217;s official birthday is still 17 September, but on the first year anniversary, it&#8217;s still a Confederation of just one tribe. We&#8217;re talking to a few tribes, from New York to Florida, about turning the aspiration of the Appalachian Confederation into a reality. If it&#8217;s an aspiration you share, then Seneca Rocks is where you need to be. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: ChandraShakti</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/#comment-21021</link>
		<dc:creator>ChandraShakti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/#comment-21021</guid>
		<description>The Drummers totem = Bullfrog
Bullfrog is perfect - loud, and produces that sound with the stretched membrane of its throat.
Also, for some of those of us not interested in going anywhere near either coast, I'd like to propose an Ozarks confederation too. Anyone interested can contact me through yahoo mail or IM  at the above username.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Drummers totem = Bullfrog<br />
Bullfrog is perfect - loud, and produces that sound with the stretched membrane of its throat.<br />
Also, for some of those of us not interested in going anywhere near either coast, I&#8217;d like to propose an Ozarks confederation too. Anyone interested can contact me through yahoo mail or IM  at the above username.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Godesky</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/#comment-3867</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Godesky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 19:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/#comment-3867</guid>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://appalachian.pbwiki.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Let the great work begin.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://appalachian.pbwiki.com/" rel="nofollow">Let the great work begin.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/#comment-1629</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 14:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/09/the-appalachian-confederation/#comment-1629</guid>
		<description>Bill,

E-mail me at slumberelegy at-sign gmail period com. We'll correspond.

(Hopefully that beats any spambots!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>E-mail me at slumberelegy at-sign gmail period com. We&#8217;ll correspond.</p>
<p>(Hopefully that beats any spambots!)</p>
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