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	<title>Comments on: Defining &#8220;Fascism&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: JimFive</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/10/defining-fascism/#comment-180262</link>
		<dc:creator>JimFive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 13:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The ONLY way to prevent corporate manipulation of any government body…
1.Enact mandatory term limits for Congressmen,and the Senators.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Actually, that is a sure way to GUARANTEE manipulation of the government.  Term limits cause the decision making power to move down a layer from the elected officials to the hired bureaucracy.

While the Civil War wasn't about freeing the slaves, it wasn't directly about expanding Federal power, either.  It was about saving the Union (The whole union, not just the North).  If Lincoln had allowed the South to secede then the threat of secession would have been available to every state in every dispute from then on.  We would end up with 10-50 independent countries that would be easily manipulated into conflict by much stronger European powers (See...The Balkans, The middle east and Africa).  Ben Franklin said with regard to the Constitution that "We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately." and that is the idea behind the Civil War.
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JimFive</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The ONLY way to prevent corporate manipulation of any government body…<br />
1.Enact mandatory term limits for Congressmen,and the Senators.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, that is a sure way to GUARANTEE manipulation of the government.  Term limits cause the decision making power to move down a layer from the elected officials to the hired bureaucracy.</p>
<p>While the Civil War wasn&#8217;t about freeing the slaves, it wasn&#8217;t directly about expanding Federal power, either.  It was about saving the Union (The whole union, not just the North).  If Lincoln had allowed the South to secede then the threat of secession would have been available to every state in every dispute from then on.  We would end up with 10-50 independent countries that would be easily manipulated into conflict by much stronger European powers (See&#8230;The Balkans, The middle east and Africa).  Ben Franklin said with regard to the Constitution that &#8220;We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately.&#8221; and that is the idea behind the Civil War.<br />
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JimFive</p>
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		<title>By: Captain America</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/10/defining-fascism/#comment-180238</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 17:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascism is quite simply this:
The Corporate manipulation over any Government body.
The ONLY way to prevent corporate manipulation of any government body...
1.Enact mandatory term limits for Congressmen,and the Senators.
2.A mandatory life sentence (or death) to any U.S.Government official(s)who are found subverting the general welfare of the American people for personal,and (or) Corporate interests.
When the CSA (Confederate States Of America) lost the Civil War to the USA (Union States Of America)...this was the beginning of end of a truly "Free" American society.Slavery was used to "wash" the true nature of the Civil War conflict.Web search this:"Constitution vs. Confederacy".The motivation behind the Civil War was to expand Federal power...and it did!
John D. Rockefeller said this:"I don't want to own anything - I want to control everything".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascism is quite simply this:<br />
The Corporate manipulation over any Government body.<br />
The ONLY way to prevent corporate manipulation of any government body&#8230;<br />
1.Enact mandatory term limits for Congressmen,and the Senators.<br />
2.A mandatory life sentence (or death) to any U.S.Government official(s)who are found subverting the general welfare of the American people for personal,and (or) Corporate interests.<br />
When the CSA (Confederate States Of America) lost the Civil War to the USA (Union States Of America)&#8230;this was the beginning of end of a truly &#8220;Free&#8221; American society.Slavery was used to &#8220;wash&#8221; the true nature of the Civil War conflict.Web search this:&#8221;Constitution vs. Confederacy&#8221;.The motivation behind the Civil War was to expand Federal power&#8230;and it did!<br />
John D. Rockefeller said this:&#8221;I don&#8217;t want to own anything - I want to control everything&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Israel&#8217;s Fascist Element (The Anthropik Network)</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/10/defining-fascism/#comment-20621</link>
		<dc:creator>Israel&#8217;s Fascist Element (The Anthropik Network)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/10/defining-fascism/#comment-20621</guid>
		<description>[...] The irony of a fascist Israel or a Nazi Zionism has proven too great for cartoonists, critics of Israeli policies, and anti-Semites to pass up. Certainly, many of Israel's policies are questionable at best, but "fascism" is a term that has been frequently abused since the end of World War II, denigrated to a mere synonym for "bad." Fascism is a very specific kind of authoritarianism, but defining it is notoriously difficult. It is secular, but mystical and Romantic; it is obsessed with ethnic purity, and unites people of one "race" in hatred of an "inferior race"; it is obsessed with nationalism and the "heroic" mythology of the nation. All nationalist ideologies have a certain predisposition towards fascism, and Zionism is not immune to that. In the history of Zionism, there has been a consistent element pulling it further towards fascism, sometimes through unexamined contradictions, sometimes through Romantic notions of nationalism, and sometimes through naked ambition. Israel is not a fascist regime, but it does harbor a fascist element that would like very much to change that, to the ruin of Judaism and the Jewish people. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The irony of a fascist Israel or a Nazi Zionism has proven too great for cartoonists, critics of Israeli policies, and anti-Semites to pass up. Certainly, many of Israel&#8217;s policies are questionable at best, but &#8220;fascism&#8221; is a term that has been frequently abused since the end of World War II, denigrated to a mere synonym for &#8220;bad.&#8221; Fascism is a very specific kind of authoritarianism, but defining it is notoriously difficult. It is secular, but mystical and Romantic; it is obsessed with ethnic purity, and unites people of one &#8220;race&#8221; in hatred of an &#8220;inferior race&#8221;; it is obsessed with nationalism and the &#8220;heroic&#8221; mythology of the nation. All nationalist ideologies have a certain predisposition towards fascism, and Zionism is not immune to that. In the history of Zionism, there has been a consistent element pulling it further towards fascism, sometimes through unexamined contradictions, sometimes through Romantic notions of nationalism, and sometimes through naked ambition. Israel is not a fascist regime, but it does harbor a fascist element that would like very much to change that, to the ruin of Judaism and the Jewish people. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Godesky</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/10/defining-fascism/#comment-6082</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Godesky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2006 04:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, so Britt is, in fact, an actual person?  No wonder it's so hard to find any credentials for him, though--by the looks of it, he doesn't really have any.  I doubt Allied Chemical, Mobil, or Xerox Corp pay him to study fascism full-time, making his doctorate (whatever it's in) most likely irrelevant, and his experience unlikely to be any greater than, say, mine.

Dr. Laura has a doctorate, too--in physical education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, so Britt is, in fact, an actual person?  No wonder it&#8217;s so hard to find any credentials for him, though&#8211;by the looks of it, he doesn&#8217;t really have any.  I doubt Allied Chemical, Mobil, or Xerox Corp pay him to study fascism full-time, making his doctorate (whatever it&#8217;s in) most likely irrelevant, and his experience unlikely to be any greater than, say, mine.</p>
<p>Dr. Laura has a doctorate, too&#8211;in physical education.</p>
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		<title>By: mwrb</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/10/defining-fascism/#comment-6079</link>
		<dc:creator>mwrb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tellingly, it's almost impossible to find a Curriculum Vita on Dr. Britt's work, or any professional affiliations he has--as if the man were simply made up as part of a ruse to score some political points.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dr Britt's background is the corporate world (Xerox, Mobil, etc.) according to this interview: http://rochester-citynews.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A3136</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tellingly, it&#8217;s almost impossible to find a Curriculum Vita on Dr. Britt&#8217;s work, or any professional affiliations he has&#8211;as if the man were simply made up as part of a ruse to score some political points.</p></blockquote>
<p>Dr Britt&#8217;s background is the corporate world (Xerox, Mobil, etc.) according to this interview: <a href="http://rochester-citynews.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A3136" rel="nofollow">http://rochester-citynews.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A3136</a></p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/10/defining-fascism/#comment-4439</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to understanding what fascism is, and is not, you may be interested to look at Robert Paxton's "Anatomy of Fascism".

Cheers,

Casey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to understanding what fascism is, and is not, you may be interested to look at Robert Paxton&#8217;s &#8220;Anatomy of Fascism&#8221;.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Casey</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Godesky</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/10/defining-fascism/#comment-2170</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Godesky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/10/defining-fascism/#comment-2170</guid>
		<description>Specifically, he said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Fascism [is] the complete opposite of ... Marxian Socialism, the materialist conception of history of human civilization can be explained simply through the conflict of interests among the various social groups and by the change and development in the means and instruments of production.... Fascism, now and always, believes in holiness and in heroism; that is to say, in actions influenced by no economic motive, direct or indirect. And if the economic conception of history be denied, according to which theory men are no more than puppets, carried to and fro by the waves of chance, while the real directing forces are quite out of their control, it follows that the existence of an unchangeable and unchanging class-war is also denied - the natural progeny of the economic conception of history. And above all Fascism denies that class-war can be the preponderant force in the transformation of society....

After Socialism, Fascism combats the whole complex system of democratic ideology, and repudiates it, whether in its theoretical premises or in its practical application. Fascism denies that the majority, by the simple fact that it is a majority, can direct human society; it denies that numbers alone can govern by means of a periodical consultation, and it affirms the immutable, beneficial, and fruitful inequality of mankind, which can never be permanently leveled through the mere operation of a mechanical process such as universal suffrage.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&#8212; Benito Mussolini, "&lt;a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20040706085953/http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/mussolini-fascism.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;What is Fascism?&lt;/a&gt;" 1932

But I wouldn't consider Mussolini the kind of rigorous political philosopher we should consult for something like this.  After all, he wasn't exactly impartial on the matter.  Moreover, such "corporatism" should not be confused with the kind of corporate protectionism we see in the contemporary United States.  As Dan Hartung put it in his refutation to Britt linked above:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Corporate Power was &lt;em&gt;sometimes&lt;/em&gt; protected, but this is perhaps the most egregiously misleading of Britt's points. The &lt;a href="http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/c1/corpor-st.asp" rel="nofollow"&gt;corporate state&lt;/a&gt; did not give corporate capitalism unchecked, unregulated power; in fact the corporate state was anti-capitalist, sought to eliminate markets and replace them with command economies, and selected winning business based on political considerations. True unchecked capitalism would more closely resemble anarchism than fascism, which is surely the ultimate in statism, and thus anathema to the classical liberal and libertarian view. The paper record of fascism as regards state economic control is so well known that Britt reveals here either appalling ignorance or cagey misdirection.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or, to quote Mussolini again: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Specifically, he said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Fascism [is] the complete opposite of &#8230; Marxian Socialism, the materialist conception of history of human civilization can be explained simply through the conflict of interests among the various social groups and by the change and development in the means and instruments of production&#8230;. Fascism, now and always, believes in holiness and in heroism; that is to say, in actions influenced by no economic motive, direct or indirect. And if the economic conception of history be denied, according to which theory men are no more than puppets, carried to and fro by the waves of chance, while the real directing forces are quite out of their control, it follows that the existence of an unchangeable and unchanging class-war is also denied - the natural progeny of the economic conception of history. And above all Fascism denies that class-war can be the preponderant force in the transformation of society&#8230;.</p>
<p>After Socialism, Fascism combats the whole complex system of democratic ideology, and repudiates it, whether in its theoretical premises or in its practical application. Fascism denies that the majority, by the simple fact that it is a majority, can direct human society; it denies that numbers alone can govern by means of a periodical consultation, and it affirms the immutable, beneficial, and fruitful inequality of mankind, which can never be permanently leveled through the mere operation of a mechanical process such as universal suffrage.</p></blockquote>
<p>&mdash; Benito Mussolini, &#8220;<a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20040706085953/http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/mussolini-fascism.html" rel="nofollow">What is Fascism?</a>&#8221; 1932</p>
<p>But I wouldn&#8217;t consider Mussolini the kind of rigorous political philosopher we should consult for something like this.  After all, he wasn&#8217;t exactly impartial on the matter.  Moreover, such &#8220;corporatism&#8221; should not be confused with the kind of corporate protectionism we see in the contemporary United States.  As Dan Hartung put it in his refutation to Britt linked above:</p>
<blockquote><p>Corporate Power was <em>sometimes</em> protected, but this is perhaps the most egregiously misleading of Britt&#8217;s points. The <a href="http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/c1/corpor-st.asp" rel="nofollow">corporate state</a> did not give corporate capitalism unchecked, unregulated power; in fact the corporate state was anti-capitalist, sought to eliminate markets and replace them with command economies, and selected winning business based on political considerations. True unchecked capitalism would more closely resemble anarchism than fascism, which is surely the ultimate in statism, and thus anathema to the classical liberal and libertarian view. The paper record of fascism as regards state economic control is so well known that Britt reveals here either appalling ignorance or cagey misdirection.</p></blockquote>
<p>Or, to quote Mussolini again: &#8220;All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/10/defining-fascism/#comment-2169</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn't Mussolini say that fascism is basically "corporateerism"? If he did &lt;a href="http://www.veteransforpeace.org/war_is_a_racket_033103.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;General Smedly Butler &lt;/a&gt;would agree with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Mussolini say that fascism is basically &#8220;corporateerism&#8221;? If he did <a href="http://www.veteransforpeace.org/war_is_a_racket_033103.htm" rel="nofollow">General Smedly Butler </a>would agree with him.</p>
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