Comments on: The Lilies of the Field http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/ se wo were fi na wosan kofa a yenki Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:29:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Binary Blonde » Blog Archive » Unanswerable Question http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/#comment-175608 Binary Blonde » Blog Archive » Unanswerable Question Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:29:48 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/#comment-175608 [...] today, another blog, The Anthropik Network, follows up with, “The Lilies of the Field“. I forwarded this one onto my husband and my [...] […] today, another blog, The Anthropik Network, follows up with, “The Lilies of the Field“. I forwarded this one onto my husband and my […]

]]> By: Martian Anthropologist » The Lilies of the Field http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/#comment-125742 Martian Anthropologist » The Lilies of the Field Mon, 04 Jun 2007 04:32:45 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/#comment-125742 [...] The Anthropik Network is a blog I stumbled across today. It’s one of the better blogs out there, in my humble opinion. Here is an entry commenting on one of my recent blog entries, and here is their main page. [...] […] The Anthropik Network is a blog I stumbled across today. It’s one of the better blogs out there, in my humble opinion. Here is an entry commenting on one of my recent blog entries, and here is their main page. […]

]]> By: Nik http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/#comment-1880 Nik Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:51:41 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/#comment-1880 Great entry. Thanks to Martian Anthropologist for pointing it out. I have no issue with working, expending effort, I'm not "lazy"... or, er, not any "lazier" than average. BUT - it's true, there's a movement that's occured in the last few hundred years, that breaks up our lives. We work/toil for someone else, for 40-50-60 hours per week, just to make, as said above, some "tokens" which allow us to buy the things we need. But then we have only a few waking hours per week to actually do ALL The rest of our work to survive - cooking, cleaning, paying bills. My thinking is that even at the founding of this (the US) nation, many people had much more time that they didn't have to be "working", and that allowed for intellectual growth, philosophical thinking, and is what lead to a pretty profoundly unique foundation for this country. One that if we still adheared to, we'd be much better off. So - why the change? Well, one thing that this does is it makes it very difficult to stay abreast of what's going on around us. Who can discharge theri duties as a citizen, to keep a close guarded watch on the elected officials who guide out lives, if we're too busy "working" for most of our waking hours every day. And - sure, ther'es TV, Movies, Video Games, Sport, socializing... I have heard arguments that we can curb these "leisure" activities.. But studies show that the more complex an organism's mind, the more down time it needs. I'd argue we are kept so busy we are not even getting enough "leisure" activities to maintain our mental health and balance. Let alone then having time to participate in society as citizens. Great entry. Thanks to Martian Anthropologist for pointing it out. I have no issue with working, expending effort, I’m not “lazy”… or, er, not any “lazier” than average. BUT - it’s true, there’s a movement that’s occured in the last few hundred years, that breaks up our lives. We work/toil for someone else, for 40-50-60 hours per week, just to make, as said above, some “tokens” which allow us to buy the things we need. But then we have only a few waking hours per week to actually do ALL The rest of our work to survive - cooking, cleaning, paying bills. My thinking is that even at the founding of this (the US) nation, many people had much more time that they didn’t have to be “working”, and that allowed for intellectual growth, philosophical thinking, and is what lead to a pretty profoundly unique foundation for this country. One that if we still adheared to, we’d be much better off.
So - why the change? Well, one thing that this does is it makes it very difficult to stay abreast of what’s going on around us.
Who can discharge theri duties as a citizen, to keep a close guarded watch on the elected officials who guide out lives, if we’re too busy “working” for most of our waking hours every day.
And - sure, ther’es TV, Movies, Video Games, Sport, socializing… I have heard arguments that we can curb these “leisure” activities..
But studies show that the more complex an organism’s mind, the more down time it needs. I’d argue we are kept so busy we are not even getting enough “leisure” activities to maintain our mental health and balance. Let alone then having time to participate in society as citizens.

]]> By: Jason Godesky http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/#comment-1863 Jason Godesky Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:25:34 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/#comment-1863 Absolutely not. Though, the question is rather spurious. There's <em>going</em> to be a massive die-off in the near future, whether we like it or not. When it's over, the answer will be yes--because the die-off will only stop when the answer becomes yes. Absolutely not.

Though, the question is rather spurious. There’s going to be a massive die-off in the near future, whether we like it or not. When it’s over, the answer will be yes–because the die-off will only stop when the answer becomes yes.

]]> By: Journeyman http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/#comment-1861 Journeyman Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:15:22 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/#comment-1861 Hi, I came to your site from a link in the Martian Anthropologist and I'm really glad I did. Fascinating post. Though, not being religious in any sense I can still see the wisdom in the words. My only question is this. With the 6 or 7 billion people currently scrabbling, slaving and ekeing an existance out on this rock do you believe that there would be enough 'food' to go around if we all went back to relying on nature? Nature in it's natural sense, (as opposed to organised farming - nature beaten into compliance), which is what I think you're suggesting. I have no evidence either way, although I suspect there would have to be a signficant fall in numbers before a true 'return to nature' would be viable. Hi,

I came to your site from a link in the Martian Anthropologist and I’m really glad I did. Fascinating post. Though, not being religious in any sense I can still see the wisdom in the words.

My only question is this.

With the 6 or 7 billion people currently scrabbling, slaving and ekeing an existance out on this rock do you believe that there would be enough ‘food’ to go around if we all went back to relying on nature? Nature in it’s natural sense, (as opposed to organised farming - nature beaten into compliance), which is what I think you’re suggesting.

I have no evidence either way, although I suspect there would have to be a signficant fall in numbers before a true ‘return to nature’ would be viable.

]]> By: Jason Godesky http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/#comment-1860 Jason Godesky Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:08:46 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/#comment-1860 Thanks! (BTW--love the Martian Man-hunter avatar!) Thanks! (BTW–love the Martian Man-hunter avatar!)

]]> By: thordora http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/#comment-1856 thordora Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:28:38 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/#comment-1856 Great post. Well said. Adding to my links as well, thanks to Martian's nice shout out to you! Great post. Well said. Adding to my links as well, thanks to Martian’s nice shout out to you!

]]> By: Jason Godesky http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/#comment-1855 Jason Godesky Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:16:14 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/#comment-1855 Thanks! You've been on my own reading list for quite a while yet. You're in the blogroll, too--if you don't see it, it's only because each load is a random sample from each category. Oh, and as an aside ... just in the quote above, G-d has dedicated more ink and stronger language against the 40-hour work week than you'll find from the most thorough scouring of scripture for condemnations of homosexuality. Thanks! You’ve been on my own reading list for quite a while yet. You’re in the blogroll, too–if you don’t see it, it’s only because each load is a random sample from each category.

Oh, and as an aside … just in the quote above, G-d has dedicated more ink and stronger language against the 40-hour work week than you’ll find from the most thorough scouring of scripture for condemnations of homosexuality.

]]> By: Martian http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/#comment-1851 Martian Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:24:53 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/#comment-1851 Nicely said, and a hell of a great blog here. It's better than the usual that I read. I'm adding you to my main links later today (blogs I read). Nicely said, and a hell of a great blog here. It’s better than the usual that I read. I’m adding you to my main links later today (blogs I read).

]]> By: anarcho-feralist http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/#comment-1807 anarcho-feralist Mon, 10 Oct 2005 23:56:05 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2005/10/the-lilies-of-the-field/#comment-1807 obviously, i think i can say that here, H/G(and maybe a very low intesity horticulturealist addition) existance is without work per se, as a seperate category of activity. it sould also be noted that it is possible to live as a scavenger of the wastes of civilization wich is in such excess. although this does not solve the essencial problem of dependence, and it is a step in that direction. obviously, i think i can say that here, H/G(and maybe a very low intesity horticulturealist addition) existance is without work per se, as a seperate category of activity. it sould also be noted that it is possible to live as a scavenger of the wastes of civilization wich is in such excess. although this does not solve the essencial problem of dependence, and it is a step in that direction.

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