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Digital Myth » Blog Archive » Godesky’s Law — Wed, 07 Dec 2005 03:57:52 +0000

[…] I recently wrote a piece on Anthropik in which I mentioned the American neoconservative movement. As I wrote it, I hesitated at using the neoconservatives as my example, for fear of the pure, unbridled stream of idiocy that invariably ensues these days whenever anyone uses the word “neoconservative.” The discussion in that particular post actually turned out to be fairly intelligent. Yet all too often, I see the widespread revelation of information about this particular political ideology as a two-edged sword (Is there another kind of sword?). The good news is that people are now aware of the neoconservatives. The bad news is that people are now aware of the neoconservatives. […]

By: Rory

Rory — Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:31:28 +0000

for more on neocons in general and their goals

http://www.newamericancentury.org

The project for a new american century. the neocons war plans for united states dominance of the world in the 21st century. frightening reading.

also, check out (sp?)zbrignei brewzinski’s “The Grand Chessboard.” the scariest thing i’ve read since mein kampf.

both documents called for a “new pearl harbor” type attack to galvanize american opinion about becoming an empire abroad, starting with the mideast.and, i might add, these came out years before the 11 of sept, 2001.

By: Peter

Peter — Mon, 21 Nov 2005 04:20:48 +0000

Over the past two days I watched the three-part BBC series, “The Power of Nightmares”. The series explores how after 9/11 the US and British governments identified an opportunity to use fear of the Al-Qeyda bogeyman to reduce civil liberties, further intrude into our private lives, and increase state police powers.

The series makes multiple references to the patron saint of the Neo-Cons philosopher Leo Strauss. After becoming disillusioned with the results of liberalism in the 1960s, Strauss came to the conclusion that the great unwashed masses needed to be told how to live so that they did not squander their lives on petty selfish pursuits. He believed that the ruling elite had the right to tell the masses a “Noble Lie” to evoke the desired behavior from them. An example of a Noble Lie would be telling Americans that they were the “good guys” in every situation and anyone who opposed them was a “bad guy” who needed to be crushed.
Strauss believed that the masses could only be moved to rise above their petty loutish concerns through fear of impending death or disaster.

Of course, the elites must not believe the noble lie themselves. It is a lie afterall.

Obviously, the concept of the Noble Lie comes from Plato. So, as you say, things are pretty much the same now as they were in ancient times.

All of this begs the question, is the Noble Lie always a necessity for smooth social order? Is the vast majority of mankind basically a write-off no matter what civilization you maybe looking at? Moreover, will a Noble Lie be required after collapse?

By: Jason Godesky

Jason Godesky — Mon, 21 Nov 2005 02:17:58 +0000

That’s why we’re so much like Rome. Even before the conscious copying, there’s only so many ways to control large groups of people. That’s what makes civilizations so homogeneous. All civilizations are the same; the differences between them are the merest window dressing.

By: Peter

Peter — Sun, 20 Nov 2005 17:06:35 +0000

Very well done. It is all about “bread and circuses” today in American life. For every person willing to read this site, there are 100,000 others who prefer to discuss who Trump fired or who was thrown off the island.

But then again, it’s always been that way. That’s why those in charge are always able to get away with so much.