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	<title>Comments on: The Best Kept Slaves</title>
	<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/</link>
	<description>se wo were fi na wosan kofa a yenki</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Thomas Rondy</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/#comment-21955</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Rondy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/#comment-21955</guid>
		<description>Certainly the majority of the world's population consists of those on the pyramid below us.  But the Vegan Green Organic Biofuel Eco-Groovy Revolution is going to fix all that, right?  Right?  &lt;b&gt;RIGHT??&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;i&gt;{snerk!}&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly the majority of the world&#8217;s population consists of those on the pyramid below us.  But the Vegan Green Organic Biofuel Eco-Groovy Revolution is going to fix all that, right?  Right?  <b>RIGHT??</b></p>
<p><i>{snerk!}</i></p>
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		<title>By: Janene</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/#comment-3983</link>
		<dc:creator>Janene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 15:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/#comment-3983</guid>
		<description>Hey --

Yeah, gold will keep some value -- so long as people have FOOD.  Gold will get you no where if your trading partners really just want to eat;-)

Janene</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8211;</p>
<p>Yeah, gold will keep some value &#8212; so long as people have FOOD.  Gold will get you no where if your trading partners really just want to eat;-)</p>
<p>Janene</p>
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		<title>By: sevenmmm</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/#comment-3978</link>
		<dc:creator>sevenmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 03:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/#comment-3978</guid>
		<description>Can't imagine any scenario where people would reject gold. Gold is maleable - without using great amounts of fuel to heat it - and can be fashioned into tools and jewelry. It's value has always been tradeable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t imagine any scenario where people would reject gold. Gold is maleable - without using great amounts of fuel to heat it - and can be fashioned into tools and jewelry. It&#8217;s value has always been tradeable.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Godesky</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/#comment-3679</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Godesky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/#comment-3679</guid>
		<description>Lots of people go camping.  Do that.

Maybe bring your friends?

It gets to be a regular thing with the same circle.

Longer camping trips, more frequently...

Until one day, you just don't come back.

Yes, it's a big change, but it can be done gradually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of people go camping.  Do that.</p>
<p>Maybe bring your friends?</p>
<p>It gets to be a regular thing with the same circle.</p>
<p>Longer camping trips, more frequently&#8230;</p>
<p>Until one day, you just don&#8217;t come back.</p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s a big change, but it can be done gradually.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/#comment-3675</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/#comment-3675</guid>
		<description>Yes, you need large changes, but very few people can start big--even getting rid of that mind control box in your living room seems like a big step at first, but once it's gone, the next steps get easier. Then the brain cell killing machine has to go. Then the pollution creating machines.

It's a good question if any meaningful number of people could ever exit civilization without a cause, since there are so many restrictions these days against living apart--taxes, permits, fees (hmm, money, eh?). 

Post die-off there will probably be plenty of salvageable resources ready for the pickings. Long term, post-civilization, I can't see a need for currency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you need large changes, but very few people can start big&#8211;even getting rid of that mind control box in your living room seems like a big step at first, but once it&#8217;s gone, the next steps get easier. Then the brain cell killing machine has to go. Then the pollution creating machines.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good question if any meaningful number of people could ever exit civilization without a cause, since there are so many restrictions these days against living apart&#8211;taxes, permits, fees (hmm, money, eh?). </p>
<p>Post die-off there will probably be plenty of salvageable resources ready for the pickings. Long term, post-civilization, I can&#8217;t see a need for currency.</p>
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		<title>By: Lope</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/#comment-3674</link>
		<dc:creator>Lope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/#comment-3674</guid>
		<description>It just seems to me that you can't make small changes in order to be free, you have to make several large and dramatic changes that are very difficult to carry out. Kind of like Thoreau - you just got to go out and start living in the bush. What do I know though.

As for gold, sure iron and shells have been used as mediums of exchange in the past, but we don't use shells anymore, nor iron. Gold is still money though - its made it through thousands of years, used by umpteen societies. That's where I'd put my money, though admittedly some other medium could emerge. Coke cans, old car tires, compact discs. Paper would go the way of the dodo - governments would print like crazy, flood the system, massive inflation, loss of confidence.

Given a melt-down scenario, do you think we'd still have exchanges between small groups - not only barter - but also money-based exchange? Would a medium of exchange actually emerge?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just seems to me that you can&#8217;t make small changes in order to be free, you have to make several large and dramatic changes that are very difficult to carry out. Kind of like Thoreau - you just got to go out and start living in the bush. What do I know though.</p>
<p>As for gold, sure iron and shells have been used as mediums of exchange in the past, but we don&#8217;t use shells anymore, nor iron. Gold is still money though - its made it through thousands of years, used by umpteen societies. That&#8217;s where I&#8217;d put my money, though admittedly some other medium could emerge. Coke cans, old car tires, compact discs. Paper would go the way of the dodo - governments would print like crazy, flood the system, massive inflation, loss of confidence.</p>
<p>Given a melt-down scenario, do you think we&#8217;d still have exchanges between small groups - not only barter - but also money-based exchange? Would a medium of exchange actually emerge?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Godesky</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/#comment-3673</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Godesky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/#comment-3673</guid>
		<description>There are ways and there are ways.  I'm now out of college and, to all appearances, "living as a responsible adult."  An apartment, a job, a car, a credit rating, even....

But I forage on the weekends, and I go camping an awful lot, and I'm learning how to make this life merely a transition--all in a way that seems perfectly "normal."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are ways and there are ways.  I&#8217;m now out of college and, to all appearances, &#8220;living as a responsible adult.&#8221;  An apartment, a job, a car, a credit rating, even&#8230;.</p>
<p>But I forage on the weekends, and I go camping an awful lot, and I&#8217;m learning how to make this life merely a transition&#8211;all in a way that seems perfectly &#8220;normal.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/#comment-3669</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/#comment-3669</guid>
		<description>At least you can burn the paper money...

As for how to make yourself free, I agree with Benjamin that there are many small and not so small changes you can make to remove yourself from the hold of society.  But, college students have more license to practice alternatives to mainstream living; once you enter 'the real world' you are expected to stop your childish ways, and live as a responsible adult.

Change things small, and never stop changing. If the ball and chain is a mortgage, the only way you'll ever realize how much of a chain it is until it's gone. Jobs? Cut back, even if it means new job, lower pay, backing down the ladder. By all means, you lose face when you ask for a reduction in job responsibility, time, and pay.  But if it is face you are after, why even post on a primitivist site?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least you can burn the paper money&#8230;</p>
<p>As for how to make yourself free, I agree with Benjamin that there are many small and not so small changes you can make to remove yourself from the hold of society.  But, college students have more license to practice alternatives to mainstream living; once you enter &#8216;the real world&#8217; you are expected to stop your childish ways, and live as a responsible adult.</p>
<p>Change things small, and never stop changing. If the ball and chain is a mortgage, the only way you&#8217;ll ever realize how much of a chain it is until it&#8217;s gone. Jobs? Cut back, even if it means new job, lower pay, backing down the ladder. By all means, you lose face when you ask for a reduction in job responsibility, time, and pay.  But if it is face you are after, why even post on a primitivist site?</p>
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		<title>By: WackyMorningDJ</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/#comment-3665</link>
		<dc:creator>WackyMorningDJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/#comment-3665</guid>
		<description>'course, money's not particularly useful after a collapse either... so what's the difference, 'cept that gold is actually a real thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;course, money&#8217;s not particularly useful after a collapse either&#8230; so what&#8217;s the difference, &#8216;cept that gold is actually a real thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Somebody</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/#comment-3663</link>
		<dc:creator>Somebody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://anthropik.com/2005/12/the-best-kept-slaves/#comment-3663</guid>
		<description>One can't eat gold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can&#8217;t eat gold.</p>
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