Comments on: Our Closest Relative http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/ se wo were fi na wosan kofa a yenki Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:53:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Jason Godesky http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/#comment-146717 Jason Godesky Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:21:57 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/#comment-146717 <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,2093001,00.html" rel="nofollow">More evidence in favor of orangutans, from the way we walk.</a> Naturally, the rebuttal is, "But, but, 2% genetic difference!" More evidence in favor of orangutans, from the way we walk. Naturally, the rebuttal is, “But, but, 2% genetic difference!”

]]> By: The Anthropik Network http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/#comment-90044 The Anthropik Network Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:45:30 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/#comment-90044 <strong>Goodall’s Bananas</strong> Jane Goodall turned our understanding of chimpanzees upside down. From her unprecedented observations, we've taken the view of chimpanzees as violent and domineering, a view that's been used to proffer up the perspective that humans, too, are by nat... Goodall’s Bananas

Jane Goodall turned our understanding of chimpanzees upside down. From her unprecedented observations, we’ve taken the view of chimpanzees as violent and domineering, a view that’s been used to proffer up the perspective that humans, too, are by nat…

]]> By: DigitalDjigit http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/#comment-7916 DigitalDjigit Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:29:20 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/#comment-7916 Check out the latest issue of Harper's magazine. It has an article on this very topic. A lot of these behaviors even in primates seem to be cultural and even very violent groups become peaceful in certain circumstances. Check out the latest issue of Harper’s magazine. It has an article on this very topic. A lot of these behaviors even in primates seem to be cultural and even very violent groups become peaceful in certain circumstances.

]]> By: Jason Godesky http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/#comment-6933 Jason Godesky Mon, 06 Mar 2006 14:39:47 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/#comment-6933 That may be more plausible ... or it could be that there's a lot more to genetics than we assume, and genetic evidence alone should not be sufficient to close the debate. That may be more plausible … or it could be that there’s a lot more to genetics than we assume, and genetic evidence alone should not be sufficient to close the debate.

]]> By: Stephen Wordsworth http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/#comment-6914 Stephen Wordsworth Mon, 06 Mar 2006 08:24:05 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/#comment-6914 Another posibility is there is somthing in orangutans or there asian enviroment, that leads to them acumulating genetic mutations faster than the other apes and humans. Making the genetic date of the last comon ancestor of orangutans and humans apear futher back than it is. Stephen Wordsworth Another posibility is there is somthing in orangutans or there asian enviroment, that leads to them acumulating genetic mutations faster than the other apes and humans. Making the genetic date of the last comon ancestor of orangutans and humans apear futher back than it is.

Stephen Wordsworth

]]> By: Jason Godesky http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/#comment-6906 Jason Godesky Mon, 06 Mar 2006 03:17:16 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/#comment-6906 <blockquote>Perhaps the explanation for Orangs sharing features that chimps dont is that these feature were shared by the comon ancestor but chimps lost them, while the oranutang share a comon ancestor with humans futher back it is not imposible for them to keep traits longer.</blockquote> That's possible, but fairly convoluted. Ockham's Razor and all. Schwartz's theory explains it just in terms of orangs being our closest relative; yours needs to introduce another element, that chimps lost all of these traits, while we lost none of them. Remember, this isn't just one or two traits, there's many of them.

Perhaps the explanation for Orangs sharing features that chimps dont is that these feature were shared by the comon ancestor but chimps lost them, while the oranutang share a comon ancestor with humans futher back it is not imposible for them to keep traits longer.

That’s possible, but fairly convoluted. Ockham’s Razor and all. Schwartz’s theory explains it just in terms of orangs being our closest relative; yours needs to introduce another element, that chimps lost all of these traits, while we lost none of them. Remember, this isn’t just one or two traits, there’s many of them.

]]> By: Ryvr http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/#comment-6891 Ryvr Sun, 05 Mar 2006 04:51:54 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/#comment-6891 I get too jealous to think about chimpanzees, bonobos, or orangutans rationally. All I can think about is I wish they were the ones pressured to trade green papers for their food, wear shoes, etc., and I were the one who could live in the jungle with my own kind. I get too jealous to think about chimpanzees, bonobos, or orangutans rationally. All I can think about is I wish they were the ones pressured to trade green papers for their food, wear shoes, etc., and I were the one who could live in the jungle with my own kind.

]]> By: Stephen Wordsworth http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/#comment-6872 Stephen Wordsworth Sat, 04 Mar 2006 05:22:57 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/#comment-6872 Perhaps the explanation for Orangs sharing features that chimps dont is that these feature were shared by the comon ancestor but chimps lost them, while the oranutang share a comon ancestor with humans futher back it is not imposible for them to keep traits longer. Perhaps the explanation for Orangs sharing features that chimps dont is that these feature were shared by the comon ancestor but chimps lost them, while the oranutang share a comon ancestor with humans futher back it is not imposible for them to keep traits longer.

]]> By: Jason Godesky http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/#comment-6854 Jason Godesky Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:59:07 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/#comment-6854 Who says rape doesn't happen in primitive societies? It most certainly does--just not at the endemic levels we see in civilization. Who says rape doesn’t happen in primitive societies? It most certainly does–just not at the endemic levels we see in civilization.

]]> By: Quizzie http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/#comment-6852 Quizzie Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:51:24 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/03/our-closest-relative/#comment-6852 Don't you dismiss rape too hastely as a behaviour that happens mainly in civilized societies, like war? It must give a very meaningful competitive advantage which might overwhelm possible disadvantages. Is it accepted in some primitive societies? Don’t you dismiss rape too hastely as a behaviour that happens mainly in civilized societies, like war? It must give a very meaningful competitive advantage which might overwhelm possible disadvantages. Is it accepted in some primitive societies?

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