If he has already begun the process of reduction to his various elements, I regret to have to inform you that I’ve had a change of heart. I no longer have the mindless urge to bark like a moonbat, and believe just any old faery tale some degreed useful idiot conjures up to replace unvarnished reality. It strikes me as indolent and narcissistic to imagine, religiously, that I am a random collection of molecules, inexplicitly conscious, and cluttering up a once pristine planet with my presence. How seriously should a reasonably intelligent person take someone who insists they are nothing more than magically animate potting soil? It’s a short step from that popular psychosis, to deciding to take the personal choice of alleviating the globe of one more accidentally animated piece of meat out of the hands of the individual, and ‘helping’ them make the ‘right’ choice.

Should that course appeal to you, let me know, so we can arrange a time and place to meet and discuss the matter like men (or your favorite noun). I can guarantee some very warm Southern hospitality.

M. Kilpatrick

Yes, but if global warming does mean that climate zones move up northward, this suggests that there will still be river valleys and floodplains in the future–just farther up north. We don’t know if plants will be domesticable, but again–we don’t know. It could be, or it could not. But we do know that those areas are not arable now, and could be in the future.

Yes, but if global warming does mean that climate zones move up northward, this suggests that there will still be river valleys and floodplains in the future–just farther up north.

Of course, perhaps, in this one context, it is adaptable to “turtle,” or store food. If you could store food for 20 years while the wilderness replenishes, then you might be able to hold out.

I’ve read the dialogues now between you and Hemenway, except for the podcast, which I am unable to listen to due to limitations on my computer. But that is another story.

But then he’d get the last post(s)…

Also, because of autism, and how my mind works, I’ve pretty much done debating, so in order to close this discussion, I would prefer it if you closed this post for comments. I will then shut up, and we can go our merry ways. Then I will stop commenting, since I am done debating. That’s pretty much how autism works. If you do not want to do that, however, that is fine. I respect your wishes.

I will welcome myself to the Internet.

Yes, Quinn did write “Beyond Civilization.” But his definition of civilization is much different than yours, which is how the world works. His Leaver and Taker dichotomy is also not totally accurate either. Thank you for your clarifications.