Comments on: Going the Way of the Anasazi http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/ se wo were fi na wosan kofa a yenki Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:09:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Eat, drink and try to survive. « WildeRix http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/#comment-84907 Eat, drink and try to survive. « WildeRix Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:44:02 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/#comment-84907 [...] This echoes concerns raised at Anthropik concerning the impact that water shortages will have on the collpase of civilization. 1, 2, 3  [...] […] This echoes concerns raised at Anthropik concerning the impact that water shortages will have on the collpase of civilization. 1, 2, 3  […]

]]> By: J-Dizzle http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/#comment-23970 J-Dizzle Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:12:21 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/#comment-23970 damn straight damn straight

]]> By: Peter http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/#comment-21229 Peter Sat, 26 Aug 2006 23:44:09 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/#comment-21229 You know about my previous foray into cultural jamming. (Let's leave the project unnamed.) If I had the time, I'd do another one. This time it would be a "Yes Men" style media jam about a private corporation that was seeking to be awarded control of California's oxygen supply. Want clean air to breath? Well, you'll have to purchase a supply contract with XYZ Corp, since the government is shedding its responsibilty for air quality. Yes, the air we breath is being privatized to improve efficiency via deregulation of the air market. Dayum, if I only had the time to play with this one. :o) You know about my previous foray into cultural jamming. (Let’s leave the project unnamed.)

If I had the time, I’d do another one. This time it would be a “Yes Men” style media jam about a private corporation that was seeking to be awarded control of California’s oxygen supply.

Want clean air to breath? Well, you’ll have to purchase a supply contract with XYZ Corp, since the government is shedding its responsibilty for air quality. Yes, the air we breath is being privatized to improve efficiency via deregulation of the air market.

Dayum, if I only had the time to play with this one.

:o)

]]> By: Jeff Vail http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/#comment-21228 Jeff Vail Sat, 26 Aug 2006 23:37:45 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/#comment-21228 Excellent post! A few thoughts: - The All-American Canal issue is one of the security problems that I regularly deal with working for the Department of the Interior. It has really come to a head lately with the planned construction--the issue is not just one of seepage and leakage but also of intentional diversion and drilling into the canal lining to direct water into Mexico. Recently there has been a significant increase in security along the All-American Canal, ostensibly to prevent illegal immigration. In truth, this is one of the best protected regions of the border--the canal functions as a moat and permits effective surveillance and response by border patrol. The security is actually in place to facilitate the upgrade of the canal... - There are rumors of a great civilization that once existed in the Colorado Delta region of the Sea of Cortez. I don't really know the extent of of their truth, but when I was sailing among some of the more remote ports along the Sea of Cortez there were stories and rumors of such an ancestral civilization. I'm always game for a tale of crypto-archaeology, but I've been able to find little to substantiate these claims--I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has. - Finally, we should not forget that Dams, such as those along the Colorado (Flaming Gorge, Glen Canyon, Hoover, Parker, Davis) don't last forever. It is understood--at least among the engineers I have spoken with at the Bureau of Reclamation that own and maintain the dams--that over the course of about 100 years the dams gather silt along their upstream side. With extensive and expensive maintenance, and through use of the huge size of the reservoirs behind these dams, they can continue to produce power and provide for irrigation almost indefinitely. But this kind of maintenance is very, very energy intensive (basicaly removing cubic kilometers of silt every few years). Without such maintenance the dams will silt to their top, after which the river will "over-top" the dam and fall like a great waterfall down its face. This creates massive undercutting erosion into the concrete base, and after a short time the dam is destroyed, unleashing huge waves of backed-up silt to erase everything downstream and renew the delta soils. So, when either massive government works break down, or energy becomes too dear, the Colorado will return to its ancient self. Excellent post! A few thoughts:

- The All-American Canal issue is one of the security problems that I regularly deal with working for the Department of the Interior. It has really come to a head lately with the planned construction–the issue is not just one of seepage and leakage but also of intentional diversion and drilling into the canal lining to direct water into Mexico. Recently there has been a significant increase in security along the All-American Canal, ostensibly to prevent illegal immigration. In truth, this is one of the best protected regions of the border–the canal functions as a moat and permits effective surveillance and response by border patrol. The security is actually in place to facilitate the upgrade of the canal…

- There are rumors of a great civilization that once existed in the Colorado Delta region of the Sea of Cortez. I don’t really know the extent of of their truth, but when I was sailing among some of the more remote ports along the Sea of Cortez there were stories and rumors of such an ancestral civilization. I’m always game for a tale of crypto-archaeology, but I’ve been able to find little to substantiate these claims–I’d be interested to hear if anyone else has.

- Finally, we should not forget that Dams, such as those along the Colorado (Flaming Gorge, Glen Canyon, Hoover, Parker, Davis) don’t last forever. It is understood–at least among the engineers I have spoken with at the Bureau of Reclamation that own and maintain the dams–that over the course of about 100 years the dams gather silt along their upstream side. With extensive and expensive maintenance, and through use of the huge size of the reservoirs behind these dams, they can continue to produce power and provide for irrigation almost indefinitely. But this kind of maintenance is very, very energy intensive (basicaly removing cubic kilometers of silt every few years). Without such maintenance the dams will silt to their top, after which the river will “over-top” the dam and fall like a great waterfall down its face. This creates massive undercutting erosion into the concrete base, and after a short time the dam is destroyed, unleashing huge waves of backed-up silt to erase everything downstream and renew the delta soils. So, when either massive government works break down, or energy becomes too dear, the Colorado will return to its ancient self.

]]> By: Peter http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/#comment-21224 Peter Sat, 26 Aug 2006 23:30:38 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/#comment-21224 Remember the part in The Corporation where some company is awarded the rights to supply water to a town in Bolivia as part of a privatization policy? It immediately jacks up the price to the point where residents start putting buckets on their roofs to collect rainwater. Then the company tries to have a law passed making collection of rainwater illegal! Finally the ill-conceived scheme was thrown out. And some people then wonder why Morales was elected by the Bolivian people. Remember the part in The Corporation where some company is awarded the rights to supply water to a town in Bolivia as part of a privatization policy? It immediately jacks up the price to the point where residents start putting buckets on their roofs to collect rainwater. Then the company tries to have a law passed making collection of rainwater illegal! Finally the ill-conceived scheme was thrown out.

And some people then wonder why Morales was elected by the Bolivian people.

]]> By: Jason Godesky http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/#comment-21223 Jason Godesky Sat, 26 Aug 2006 23:20:55 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/#comment-21223 Thanks for the info, Peter. All I could scare up from Google or YouTube was this promo: <embed style="width:400px; height:326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=3422628833294822926&hl=en"> </embed> And this piece <em>about</em> the documentary: <embed style="width:400px; height:326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-2301656555573391566&hl=en"> </embed> Thanks for the info, Peter. All I could scare up from Google or YouTube was this promo:

And this piece about the documentary:

]]> By: Peter http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/#comment-21221 Peter Sat, 26 Aug 2006 22:54:11 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/#comment-21221 Here's a link: http://www.hopi.nsn.us/water_qanda.asp Here’s a link: http://www.hopi.nsn.us/water_qanda.asp

]]> By: Peter http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/#comment-21220 Peter Sat, 26 Aug 2006 22:53:20 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/#comment-21220 About three or four decades ago the Peabody Coal Company was awarded the rights to pump drinking water out of the Black Mesa aquifer which the Hopi Indians rely on. The water is then used to slurry coal down a pipeline, as this is the cheapest way to move coal in large volumes. The company extracts about 1.5 billion gallons of pure drinking water per year for this industrial use. According to the government the aquifer will run dry by about 2011. This obviously will have serious repercussions for the Hopi nation. In a nutshell, it's time our idiot media learned the true definition of "environmental terrorism". It's not tree sitters or even the monkey wrench gangs that are perpetrating this crime. It's corporations like Peabody. About three or four decades ago the Peabody Coal Company was awarded the rights to pump drinking water out of the Black Mesa aquifer which the Hopi Indians rely on. The water is then used to slurry coal down a pipeline, as this is the cheapest way to move coal in large volumes. The company extracts about 1.5 billion gallons of pure drinking water per year for this industrial use.

According to the government the aquifer will run dry by about 2011. This obviously will have serious repercussions for the Hopi nation.

In a nutshell, it’s time our idiot media learned the true definition of “environmental terrorism”. It’s not tree sitters or even the monkey wrench gangs that are perpetrating this crime. It’s corporations like Peabody.

]]> By: Peter http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/#comment-21218 Peter Sat, 26 Aug 2006 22:40:55 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/#comment-21218 I am trying to get my hands on a copy of a documentary that came out a couple of years ago dealing with the looming water crisis. It's called "Thirst". I am trying to get my hands on a copy of a documentary that came out a couple of years ago dealing with the looming water crisis. It’s called “Thirst”.

]]> By: Water, Water, Everywhere (The Anthropik Network) http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/#comment-21208 Water, Water, Everywhere (The Anthropik Network) Sat, 26 Aug 2006 20:24:33 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/08/going-the-way-of-the-anasazi/#comment-21208 [...] "Going the Way of the Anasazi," The American southwest is not the first civilization to be built on the Colorado River, but shortages in the southwest highlight that the current civilization there is already heading on the same course—towards collapse. [...] […] “Going the Way of the Anasazi,” The American southwest is not the first civilization to be built on the Colorado River, but shortages in the southwest highlight that the current civilization there is already heading on the same course—towards collapse. […]

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