Comments on: Elephant Men http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/ se wo were fi na wosan kofa a yenki Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:41:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: harry http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/#comment-175472 harry Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:43:13 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/#comment-175472 its very sad to see elephants killed so heartlessly by humans.i wish these humans to be kind. its very sad to see elephants killed so heartlessly by humans.i wish these humans to be kind.

]]> By: bob http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/#comment-174979 bob Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:48:26 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/#comment-174979 that is so cool that is so cool

]]> By: Where have all the elders gone? « Villageblog http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/#comment-172885 Where have all the elders gone? « Villageblog Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:45:06 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/#comment-172885 [...] have all the elders gone? How many people read Jason Godesky’s recent piece about the behaviour of young elephants who lack elders, and thought to themselves ‘that sounds [...] […] have all the elders gone? How many people read Jason Godesky’s recent piece about the behaviour of young elephants who lack elders, and thought to themselves ‘that sounds […]

]]> By: The Fall « Villageblog http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/#comment-172883 The Fall « Villageblog Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:35:26 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/#comment-172883 [...] Godesky (who’s putting out some staggeringly good work at the moment by the way) just posted this piece about the changing elephant culture which seems to be portraying something similar amongst elephant [...] […] Godesky (who’s putting out some staggeringly good work at the moment by the way) just posted this piece about the changing elephant culture which seems to be portraying something similar amongst elephant […]

]]> By: Any future is good future | kopfzeiler.org http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/#comment-71281 Any future is good future | kopfzeiler.org Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:09:01 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/#comment-71281 [...] Auch wenn eine handvoll menschelnder Tierforscher damals der Ansicht war, dass den Jungbullen  lediglich ältere Vorbilder für vorbildliches Elefantenverhalten fehlen würden (die wiederum tragischerweise zuvor von Wilderern erlegt worden waren), so ließ sich damals schon erkennen, das das eigentliche Ziel der Aggression nicht das Nashornweibchen, sondern ein weitaus dünnhäutigeres Säugetier war: Der Mensch. Mittlerweile ist dieses Phänomen auch unter Elefantenforschern als H.E.C. (Human Elephant Conflict) unbestritten. [...] […] Auch wenn eine handvoll menschelnder Tierforscher damals der Ansicht war, dass den Jungbullen  lediglich ältere Vorbilder für vorbildliches Elefantenverhalten fehlen würden (die wiederum tragischerweise zuvor von Wilderern erlegt worden waren), so ließ sich damals schon erkennen, das das eigentliche Ziel der Aggression nicht das Nashornweibchen, sondern ein weitaus dünnhäutigeres Säugetier war: Der Mensch. Mittlerweile ist dieses Phänomen auch unter Elefantenforschern als H.E.C. (Human Elephant Conflict) unbestritten. […]

]]> By: Jason Godesky http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/#comment-28625 Jason Godesky Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:40:04 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/#comment-28625 In case you hadn't noticed, econous, it's the economic incentive that's been wiping them out. In case you hadn’t noticed, econous, it’s the economic incentive that’s been wiping them out.

]]> By: econous http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/#comment-28481 econous Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:34:47 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/#comment-28481 Interesting article here: <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6091848.stm" rel="nofollow"> Hunting 'has conservation role'</a>. A little out there? Perhaps, but the survival of these, beautiful intelligent animals has to make economic sense to the people living with them. The only people who look to be prepared to stump up the serious money needed are hunters, or so it seems. The pest, the enemy, the good, the bad and the ugly has always been defined by those with the power. So by the phrase "pest to asset", I mean in terms of the people living there with elephants. Really interesting site, lots of ponder fodder. Interesting article here:
Hunting ‘has conservation role’. A little out there? Perhaps, but the survival of these, beautiful intelligent animals has to make economic sense to the people living with them. The only people who look to be prepared to stump up the serious money needed are hunters, or so it seems.

The pest, the enemy, the good, the bad and the ugly has always been defined by those with the power. So by the phrase “pest to asset”, I mean in terms of the people living there with elephants.

Really interesting site, lots of ponder fodder.

]]> By: Jason Godesky http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/#comment-28225 Jason Godesky Sat, 04 Nov 2006 04:27:32 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/#comment-28225 That's the kind of thinking that started this thing, econous. Notice that it's always poachers <em>and</em> government cullings, undertaken for ecological purposes. That’s the kind of thinking that started this thing, econous. Notice that it’s always poachers and government cullings, undertaken for ecological purposes.

]]> By: JCamasto http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/#comment-28222 JCamasto Sat, 04 Nov 2006 04:21:38 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/#comment-28222 Who's the pest? Elephant, or civ man? Who’s the pest? Elephant, or civ man?

]]> By: econous http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/#comment-28204 econous Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:18:47 +0000 http://anthropik.com/2006/10/elephant-men/#comment-28204 The hunting of trophy animals, like elephants, may be an effective tool to help preserve both elephants and their environment in a more natural state than zoos. Well managed hunting turns a pest into an asset. $10 000 a pop. It might seem rather calculating but along with other conservation approaches might be their best hope to remain in an approximately wild state. [At least until the end of civilization.] The hunting of trophy animals, like elephants, may be an effective tool to help preserve both elephants and their environment in a more natural state than zoos. Well managed hunting turns a pest into an asset. $10 000 a pop. It might seem rather calculating but along with other conservation approaches might be their best hope to remain in an approximately wild state. [At least until the end of civilization.]

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