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		<title>By: Radder Than Thou (The Anthropik Network)</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2006/11/wii/#comment-41760</link>
		<dc:creator>Radder Than Thou (The Anthropik Network)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 15:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Our article on the Wii was sometimes mistaken as shilling for the product—we merely found in it an excellent excuse to dispell the myth of Cartesian dualism. The Wii's success is grounded in a fortunate, though in all likelihood completely accidental, perception that cut beyond the civilized myth of mind and body as seperate entities, to the animistic truth of a single being. This is infinitely more interesting than the release of a new video game console, but if a video game console can reveal that to a larger population, then that is a console that deserves our full support. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Our article on the Wii was sometimes mistaken as shilling for the product—we merely found in it an excellent excuse to dispell the myth of Cartesian dualism. The Wii&#8217;s success is grounded in a fortunate, though in all likelihood completely accidental, perception that cut beyond the civilized myth of mind and body as seperate entities, to the animistic truth of a single being. This is infinitely more interesting than the release of a new video game console, but if a video game console can reveal that to a larger population, then that is a console that deserves our full support. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: JCamasto</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2006/11/wii/#comment-40129</link>
		<dc:creator>JCamasto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2006 22:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like people are getting pretty enthusiastic with the Wii remote, and starting to hurt themselves, the wall, the cat...  (Certainly not hurting the lawyers...)  Wii!! wrist strap backslap to the head; Wii!! tossin' it through the tv; Wii!! hyperextend a shoulder...

This all strikes me as both fun and funny, racquetball player that I am - you know, the one stick &#38; ball sport where the stick is strapped on...  Nothing funnier than seeing one of those cut loose and shatter against the front wall!

But most importantly, this little device - in a quite direct, unabashed manner - may become the ultimate tool of Masturbation Nation... 

Think of the endless possibilities!  &lt;i&gt;Skin Flute Hero&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Victoria's Little Secret &lt;/i&gt;  - prompting a groundswell of concerned parents to endorse an interdisciplinary &lt;i&gt;Catholic Skool Smackdown&lt;/i&gt; ) 

Imagine - just one simple programmable multifunction hand-held plastic unit for all your needs -  Strap one on today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like people are getting pretty enthusiastic with the Wii remote, and starting to hurt themselves, the wall, the cat&#8230;  (Certainly not hurting the lawyers&#8230;)  Wii!! wrist strap backslap to the head; Wii!! tossin&#8217; it through the tv; Wii!! hyperextend a shoulder&#8230;</p>
<p>This all strikes me as both fun and funny, racquetball player that I am - you know, the one stick &amp; ball sport where the stick is strapped on&#8230;  Nothing funnier than seeing one of those cut loose and shatter against the front wall!</p>
<p>But most importantly, this little device - in a quite direct, unabashed manner - may become the ultimate tool of Masturbation Nation&#8230; </p>
<p>Think of the endless possibilities!  <i>Skin Flute Hero</i> and <i>Victoria&#8217;s Little Secret </i>  - prompting a groundswell of concerned parents to endorse an interdisciplinary <i>Catholic Skool Smackdown</i> ) </p>
<p>Imagine - just one simple programmable multifunction hand-held plastic unit for all your needs -  Strap one on today!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Godesky</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2006/11/wii/#comment-30572</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Godesky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; Now I also think biopsychiatry, if you or a loved one is ever deeply unfortunate enough to become involved, has its core weakness unearthed here when it comes to this 'dualism'. ... When you are concerned about the fact that an entire medical fraternity has been throwing darts at a board for fifty years with psychotropics, and the growing millions of undeveloped children being labelled and drugged based on 'brain chemistry imbalances' you begin to understand how far reaching an effect ideology can have on us.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Doesn't the failure of Cartesian dualism &lt;em&gt;vindicate&lt;/em&gt; biopsychiatry, since it makes "the mind" a bodily function as easily remedied with drugs as any other ailment of the physical body?  A brain chemical imbalance &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; a psychological condition.  There is no seperation; the only distinction is which level we choose to look at it from, whether our phenomenological experience of it (psychology), or from the biological mechanics of it (biology).

&lt;blockquote&gt;It is madness and I can tell you categorically that lifelong mental illness doesn't exist. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I can tell you categorically that it &lt;em&gt;does&lt;/em&gt;.  The criteria for mental illness is actually pretty cut-and-dry&#8212;when it interferes with a person's ability to live the way they want to live.  There are lots of people who have life-long problems like that, and it's &lt;em&gt;because&lt;/em&gt; there's no distinction between "mind" and body.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I can tell you that any schizophrenic that has repeated psychosis for years is a victim of two pronged attack from 1. the toxic chemical brain damage inflicted by psychiatry post diagnosis and 2. the status and social anxiety of being labelled a genetically inferior defective human being who is objectified as an outsider for life.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You make it sound as if schizophrenia itself plays no role at all, and that's simply not true.  Now, in the anthropology of medicine, there's a distinction made between &lt;em&gt;disease&lt;/em&gt; (the actual, biological condition), &lt;em&gt;sickness&lt;/em&gt; (the phenomenological experience of being "sick"), and &lt;em&gt;illness&lt;/em&gt; (the sociological experience of being "sick").  In &lt;a href="http://anthropik.com/2006/01/thesis-22-civilization-has-no-monopoly-on-medicine/" rel="nofollow"&gt;thesis #22&lt;/a&gt; I made much of Western biomedicine's myopic focus on disease alone, and praised traditional medical systems for how well they address sickness and illness, and with regards to schizophrenia specifically, it is absolutely true that the illness can at times be worse than the disease, and that other cultures show much healthier ways of dealing with that.  It's also true that our medicines, like any other technology, are subject to unintended consequences (&lt;em&gt;see&lt;/em&gt; &lt;a href="http://anthropik.com/2005/11/thesis-16-technology-cannot-stop-collapse/" rel="nofollow"&gt;thesis #16&lt;/a&gt;).  &lt;em&gt;But&lt;/em&gt; if you're going to suggest that without medication or social pressures that schizophrenics would just be hunky-dory, I think you've vastly underestimated the burden schizophrenics have to bear.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Psychiatry, like religion but in a different way is insanity by consensus, disease by consensus, delusion by consensus.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You're really barking up the wrong tree on this one.  Mike briefly worked in a psychiatric hospital, and has a psychology degree, and while I don't have the certification, it's only by a few credits; it's been a long-time fascination of mine.  Even Giuli, with her family's background in social work, has had occasion to visit and work with psychiatric patients.  Now, if you want to talk about over-diagnosis of psychiatric medication, or the lack of attention Western medcine gives to illness or sickness, that can be a very fruitful discussion.  But psychiatry as a religion?  Perhaps in our attitudes &lt;em&gt;towards&lt;/em&gt; it, but psychiatry itself is a very methodical medical science.  There's problems in the underlying paradigm, I think, so we can have a fascinating discussion about the philosophy of science in general, but what you write here is sheer hyperbole.  Psychiatrists, by in large, are trying to help people as best they know how, and while their failures are matters of concern, the fact of the matter is that their methods &lt;em&gt;do&lt;/em&gt; work.  There &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; plenty of people out there who have psychological problems that keep them from living their lives the way they want, and psychiatry helps them to do that.  There are some people who would destroy themselves without the aid psychiatrists give them.  There's no sense in romanticizing mental illness; it &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; illness, just like congestive illness or gastrointestinal illness or any other kind of illness, &lt;em&gt;because&lt;/em&gt; the "mind" is a function of the body, and can become diseased as easily as any other part of the body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Now I also think biopsychiatry, if you or a loved one is ever deeply unfortunate enough to become involved, has its core weakness unearthed here when it comes to this &#8216;dualism&#8217;. &#8230; When you are concerned about the fact that an entire medical fraternity has been throwing darts at a board for fifty years with psychotropics, and the growing millions of undeveloped children being labelled and drugged based on &#8216;brain chemistry imbalances&#8217; you begin to understand how far reaching an effect ideology can have on us.</p></blockquote>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t the failure of Cartesian dualism <em>vindicate</em> biopsychiatry, since it makes &#8220;the mind&#8221; a bodily function as easily remedied with drugs as any other ailment of the physical body?  A brain chemical imbalance <em>is</em> a psychological condition.  There is no seperation; the only distinction is which level we choose to look at it from, whether our phenomenological experience of it (psychology), or from the biological mechanics of it (biology).</p>
<blockquote><p>It is madness and I can tell you categorically that lifelong mental illness doesn&#8217;t exist. </p></blockquote>
<p>I can tell you categorically that it <em>does</em>.  The criteria for mental illness is actually pretty cut-and-dry&mdash;when it interferes with a person&#8217;s ability to live the way they want to live.  There are lots of people who have life-long problems like that, and it&#8217;s <em>because</em> there&#8217;s no distinction between &#8220;mind&#8221; and body.</p>
<blockquote><p>I can tell you that any schizophrenic that has repeated psychosis for years is a victim of two pronged attack from 1. the toxic chemical brain damage inflicted by psychiatry post diagnosis and 2. the status and social anxiety of being labelled a genetically inferior defective human being who is objectified as an outsider for life.</p></blockquote>
<p>You make it sound as if schizophrenia itself plays no role at all, and that&#8217;s simply not true.  Now, in the anthropology of medicine, there&#8217;s a distinction made between <em>disease</em> (the actual, biological condition), <em>sickness</em> (the phenomenological experience of being &#8220;sick&#8221;), and <em>illness</em> (the sociological experience of being &#8220;sick&#8221;).  In <a href="http://anthropik.com/2006/01/thesis-22-civilization-has-no-monopoly-on-medicine/" rel="nofollow">thesis #22</a> I made much of Western biomedicine&#8217;s myopic focus on disease alone, and praised traditional medical systems for how well they address sickness and illness, and with regards to schizophrenia specifically, it is absolutely true that the illness can at times be worse than the disease, and that other cultures show much healthier ways of dealing with that.  It&#8217;s also true that our medicines, like any other technology, are subject to unintended consequences (<em>see</em> <a href="http://anthropik.com/2005/11/thesis-16-technology-cannot-stop-collapse/" rel="nofollow">thesis #16</a>).  <em>But</em> if you&#8217;re going to suggest that without medication or social pressures that schizophrenics would just be hunky-dory, I think you&#8217;ve vastly underestimated the burden schizophrenics have to bear.</p>
<blockquote><p>Psychiatry, like religion but in a different way is insanity by consensus, disease by consensus, delusion by consensus.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re really barking up the wrong tree on this one.  Mike briefly worked in a psychiatric hospital, and has a psychology degree, and while I don&#8217;t have the certification, it&#8217;s only by a few credits; it&#8217;s been a long-time fascination of mine.  Even Giuli, with her family&#8217;s background in social work, has had occasion to visit and work with psychiatric patients.  Now, if you want to talk about over-diagnosis of psychiatric medication, or the lack of attention Western medcine gives to illness or sickness, that can be a very fruitful discussion.  But psychiatry as a religion?  Perhaps in our attitudes <em>towards</em> it, but psychiatry itself is a very methodical medical science.  There&#8217;s problems in the underlying paradigm, I think, so we can have a fascinating discussion about the philosophy of science in general, but what you write here is sheer hyperbole.  Psychiatrists, by in large, are trying to help people as best they know how, and while their failures are matters of concern, the fact of the matter is that their methods <em>do</em> work.  There <em>are</em> plenty of people out there who have psychological problems that keep them from living their lives the way they want, and psychiatry helps them to do that.  There are some people who would destroy themselves without the aid psychiatrists give them.  There&#8217;s no sense in romanticizing mental illness; it <em>is</em> illness, just like congestive illness or gastrointestinal illness or any other kind of illness, <em>because</em> the &#8220;mind&#8221; is a function of the body, and can become diseased as easily as any other part of the body.</p>
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		<title>By: 1234</title>
		<link>http://anthropik.com/2006/11/wii/#comment-30569</link>
		<dc:creator>1234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coincidence you wrote on such an issue just after I raised a similar brain/body dualism question yesterday...this is a thoroughly alive blog here  and Godesky writes well. "The mind is embodied, not just embrained" - this has got to be true from my experience. Now I also think biopsychiatry, if you or a loved one is ever deeply unfortunate enough to become involved, has its core weakness unearthed here when it comes to this 'dualism'. I think that elements of living out a wrong paradigm that is not natural can have far less innocuous ramifications than simply what millions of japanese are doing with their liesure time. When you are concerned about the fact that an entire medical fraternity has been throwing darts at a board for fifty years with psychotropics, and the growing millions of undeveloped children being labelled and drugged based on 'brain chemistry imbalances' you begin to understand how far reaching an effect ideology can have on us. Millions endure forced chemical lobotomy daily and lose years if not all of their lives at the hands of a weak theory. Now some are undergoing deep brain stimulation surgery, yes that impant device you may have seen for parkinson's, for depression! they are cutting brains open and implanting electrical devices for depression. It is madness and I can tell you categorically that lifelong mental illness doesn't exist. Psychosis is always earmarked by a scrambling of our ability to take in communication from the outside world and is heavily earmarked by trouble with language, abstract ideas, alphabet related perhaps. I can tell you that any schizophrenic that has repeated psychosis for years is a victim of two pronged attack from 1. the toxic chemical brain damage inflicted by psychiatry post diagnosis and 2. the status and social anxiety of being labelled a genetically inferior defective human being who is objectified as an outsider for life. There are hundreds of thousands of people I believe that have been diagnosed with a brief psychosis rathar than schizophrenia, recovered and moved on only thanks to the russian roulette-esque luck of the draw when it comes to how deep into the harmful system a psychiatrist going to drag you when the emergency first becomes apparent. If a psychiatrist statistically diagnoses more emergency case psychotics schizophrenic than a one off nervous breakdown type event, that is only reflective of his diagnostic habits and is no way reflective of any naturally occuring disease in the populace. So, the more severe treatment he orders for you, the more serious the label he gives you, the more dead in the water you are. You will internalise it no matter how strong you are given time, the stigma is that strong you cannot resist for long, and then you will have learned helplessness and be totally disabled. If you are lucky enough to escape with a mild opinion, you are the lucky one. Psychiatry, like religion but in a different way is insanity by consensus, disease by consensus, delusion by consensus. In no other medical speciality are there no biomarkers, and in other speciality are diseases voted into existence based a set of perceived sympoms. Ah this is disjointed im gonna go away and write something better. Anyway better than no comments and thoughts, I don't have to be as thought through as an actual blog post because this aint my blog and this is just a comment. So yeah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coincidence you wrote on such an issue just after I raised a similar brain/body dualism question yesterday&#8230;this is a thoroughly alive blog here  and Godesky writes well. &#8220;The mind is embodied, not just embrained&#8221; - this has got to be true from my experience. Now I also think biopsychiatry, if you or a loved one is ever deeply unfortunate enough to become involved, has its core weakness unearthed here when it comes to this &#8216;dualism&#8217;. I think that elements of living out a wrong paradigm that is not natural can have far less innocuous ramifications than simply what millions of japanese are doing with their liesure time. When you are concerned about the fact that an entire medical fraternity has been throwing darts at a board for fifty years with psychotropics, and the growing millions of undeveloped children being labelled and drugged based on &#8216;brain chemistry imbalances&#8217; you begin to understand how far reaching an effect ideology can have on us. Millions endure forced chemical lobotomy daily and lose years if not all of their lives at the hands of a weak theory. Now some are undergoing deep brain stimulation surgery, yes that impant device you may have seen for parkinson&#8217;s, for depression! they are cutting brains open and implanting electrical devices for depression. It is madness and I can tell you categorically that lifelong mental illness doesn&#8217;t exist. Psychosis is always earmarked by a scrambling of our ability to take in communication from the outside world and is heavily earmarked by trouble with language, abstract ideas, alphabet related perhaps. I can tell you that any schizophrenic that has repeated psychosis for years is a victim of two pronged attack from 1. the toxic chemical brain damage inflicted by psychiatry post diagnosis and 2. the status and social anxiety of being labelled a genetically inferior defective human being who is objectified as an outsider for life. There are hundreds of thousands of people I believe that have been diagnosed with a brief psychosis rathar than schizophrenia, recovered and moved on only thanks to the russian roulette-esque luck of the draw when it comes to how deep into the harmful system a psychiatrist going to drag you when the emergency first becomes apparent. If a psychiatrist statistically diagnoses more emergency case psychotics schizophrenic than a one off nervous breakdown type event, that is only reflective of his diagnostic habits and is no way reflective of any naturally occuring disease in the populace. So, the more severe treatment he orders for you, the more serious the label he gives you, the more dead in the water you are. You will internalise it no matter how strong you are given time, the stigma is that strong you cannot resist for long, and then you will have learned helplessness and be totally disabled. If you are lucky enough to escape with a mild opinion, you are the lucky one. Psychiatry, like religion but in a different way is insanity by consensus, disease by consensus, delusion by consensus. In no other medical speciality are there no biomarkers, and in other speciality are diseases voted into existence based a set of perceived sympoms. Ah this is disjointed im gonna go away and write something better. Anyway better than no comments and thoughts, I don&#8217;t have to be as thought through as an actual blog post because this aint my blog and this is just a comment. So yeah.</p>
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