Living in Collapse
by Jason GodeskyThe common narrative of the 20th century in the Western world is one of triumph—the triumph of republican governments and the so-called “free market” over fascism and communism, the triumph of economic growth, even the technological triumphs of putting men on the moon, and detonating the first nuclear bombs. In contrast to Eric Hobsbawm’s “long nineteenth century” from the French Revolution in 1789 to the outbreak of World War I in 1914, the “short twentieth century” spanned from 1914 to the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1992. Francis Fukuyama famously called this “the End of History,” asserting, “What we may be witnessing is not just the end of the Cold War, or the passing of a particular period of post-war history, but the end of history as such: that is, the end point of mankind’s ideological evolution and the universalization of Western liberal democracy as the final form of human government.”
What we’ve examined in this series presents a very different view of the 20th century’s place in history. The European empires, particularly in the “long nineteenth century,” reached an historically-uparalleled apex in global social complexity, consolidating the earth and its human population under a minimum of imperial governments, while also passing the point of diminishing returns for further investments in complexity. The energy source for this era of imperialism, coal, directed European empires towards territorial acquisitions. However, the shift from coal to petroleum brought with it a violent re-alignment of political power, shifting from the traditional European coal centers in Britain, France and Germany, to the significant oil producers, the United States and the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union suffered from an overly complex government, but it collapsed ultimately as a result of peaking oil production. Meanwhile, the shift from coal to petroleum led to global independence movements and the end of European imperialism. Instead, neocolonialism contiues to exploit former colonies in a system of globalization that maintains an imperial core consisting to some degree of the former European imperial centers, but increasingly the new imperial center in the United States. This more subtle form of empire is itself a clear sign of collapse, however, with proliferating de jure independence movements that eliminate the established level of European imperial complexity, as well as the rise of various “rhizome” networks, from multinational corporations to terrorist networks, that defy the conventional, Cartesian definition of the nation-state, and represent the next step down towards collapse.
The Fund for Peace’s failed states index is an excellent proxy of the progress of current collapse, though its criteria overlooks collapse situations in New Orleans, Montana, Australia, and other locations.
Rather than the century of civilization’s triumph, then, it becomes clear that the 20th century was the first 100 years of global collapse. At the end of the 20th century, most of the world was in some state of collapse. As Joseph Tainter argued in Collapse of Complex Societies, the competition between states in a peer polity system keeps any of them from truly collapsing on their own; today, the IMF, the World Bank, and various other forces (well-portrayed in the pharmaceutical and illegal arms trades by the 2005 movies The Constant Gardener and Lord of War, respectively) “prop up” collapsed states from the remaining pillars of complexity. This state of pseudo-collapse brings with it the worst of both worlds: the strife, poverty and violence of collapse, without the opening spaces and opportunities that a full collapse brings with it. By the end of the twentieth century, most of the world existed in such a state, with the United States and Western Europe essentially propping up complexity across the rest of the world. For most of the world, collapse is not a future possibility, but a very present reality.
Yet, in the imperial core, collapse seems like a distant and unreal threat. If the 20th century was the first 100 years of collapse, the West certainly didn’t experience it as such. Roman authors similarly mentioned the glory of their empire, expressing a similar faith in their abiding civilization, after the Third Century Crisis and well into the period that modern historians recognize as the empire’s collapse. The watershed moment for Roman awareness of collapse really happened in 410 CE, when Alaric sacked Rome—in his Commentary on Ezekiel, Jerome famously wrote, “…the bright light of all the world was put out, or, rather, when the Roman Empire was decapitated, and, to speak more correctly, the whole world perished in one city.” While Roman authors seem oblivious to the trends of collapse that modern historians note prior to 410, after Alaric’s sack of the city, Roman authors increasingly take on a post-apocalyptic tone. The image of the Visigoths cresting the Capitoline Hill reverberates down as the image of Rome’s fall, even though the Western empire went on for another 66 years. Historians chart the decline and fall of Rome as a long, complex process, which it ultimately was. The beginning of the Third Century Crisis around 235 is as good a starting point as any, and similarly, the ascent of Odoacer as King of Italy, ending the de jure rule of the Western Roman Empire in 476 would be an equally justifiable, and equally arbitrary, end point. In between, 241 years elapsed, a long decline by any human standard. And yet, those who lived through it experienced it as a sudden, even apocalyptic event: the sack of Rome on 24 August 410 CE. They did not recognize any of the preceding as collapse, and what came after was as desperate an attempt to keep the pieces together as Justinian’s campaign to retake the Western Empire from 533 to 552.
The “long decline” is always an academic exercise. It is the perspective of an historian with hindsight, looking back and tracing the patterns that led to collapse, as well as the continuing attempts to maintain a way of life afterwards. It does not describe the experience of those who live through such events. Contemporaries experience collapse as a swift transformation of their society; they might notice things getting somewhat worse beforehand, and desperate attempts to hold their way of life together in the aftermath, but for the most part, collapse is experienced as a sudden transformation. It’s historians in future centuries that are able to distinguish the “long decline.”
This can be understood also in terms of inflection points; looking at a curve in total, we can see that it has a general, smooth shape. Yet, the inflection point represents a shift in the direction of the curve. By the same token, if you look at the track of a roller-coaster, you can see that it makes a smooth curve; yet, when actually experiencing that curve first-hand, there is a distinct point where the slow click-clack of the upward climb gives way to the sudden rush down.
There are distinct differences between our situation and that of the Roman Empire, however. While the Romans did face some problems of soil depletion and erosion, these were not acute crises that brought down the empire. Rather, the Roman Empire largely choked on its own complexity. More importantly, the Roman Empire, and all previous civilizations, were part of a general trend of escalating complexity. Each civilization in the past left fertile soils, mineral deposits, and other resources that future civilizations would need. The trend of Western civilization was a constant move west, to find soils not yet destroyed by agriculture—Persia and its attempts to conquer Greece; the Greek city-states and their Italian colonies; the Roman Empire stretching into Germany, France, Britain and Spain; the medieval kingdoms of Germany, France, Britain and Spain, and their eventual colonies in the New World; the United States after its revolution and the doctrine of “Manifest Destiny” pushing into the west; and finally, the Green Revolution once we ran out of new frontiers to coqnuer and to cultivate. Each one left less for the successive civilization, but while Rome fell, Teotihuacan, China, and even Byzantium could continue on uninterrupted, while soils and mineral resources untouched by past civilizations remained on the frontier. With the exploitation of fossil fuels and the emergence of a globalized peer polity, that trend has reached its inevitable conclusion. There are no more fertile soils that have not been exhausted; there are no more fossil fuel or mineral resources in economic quantities and close enough to the surface to mine without an industrial infrastructure; there is no corner of the globe where complexity can continue uninterrupted when global complexity collapses. From the long view, it is clear that civilization is a momentary blip in human history, an anomoly born from a very specific constellation of geographic and climatological factors. As Alfred Lotka noted in 1925:
The human species, considered in broad perspective, as a unit including its economic and industrial accessories, has swiftly and radically changed its character during the epoch in which our life has been laid. In this sense we are far removed from equilibrium—a fact that is of the highest practical significance, since it implies that a period of adjustment to equilibrium conditions lies before us, and he would be an extreme optimist who should expect that such adjustment can be reached without labor and travail. … While such sudden decline might, from a detached standpoint, appear as in accord with the eternal equities, since previous gains would in cold terms balance the losses, yet it would be felt as a superlative catastrophe. Our descendants, if such as this should be their fate, will see poor compensation for their ills and in fact that we did live in abundance and luxury.
The soil and mineral wealth a future civilization would need, we have already consumed. This was something past civilizations did not do—could not do, because they had not yet reached the level of complexity necessary to do so. This is why every historical collapse has allowed for later resurgence; collapses constituted temporary setbacks in overall social complexity, as no collapse ever eliminated quite all the complexity the civilization had already built up. Western Europe was a far more complex place after the Roman Empire than before it. Post-Roman Britain, for example, has been routinely underestimated and taken to be a decimated and desolate place, but more recent archaeological discoveries at Tintagel, Wroxeter and other locations have filled in a picture of a significantly more complex society than the Late Pre-Roman Iron Age (LPRIA) societies that the Romans conquered. As Kenneth Dark illustrated so well in Civitas to Kingdom, the pre-Roman Celtic tribes formed the basis of the Roman civitates, which became the post-Roman kingdoms. There was a significant degree of continuity, and while there was a distinct collapse of social complexity, there was still legitimate town life, continental trade networks stretching all the way to Byzantium, and an integration of various other social systems completely lacking in the LPRIA. Historians as far back as Henri Pirenne in the nineteenth century have highlighted the trends of continuity in the Roman collapse; Fustel de Coulanges pointed out how the “barbarians” simply continued pre-existing Germanicizing trends in Roman society, while E.A. Thompson highlighted that for their part, the great aspiration of the Germanic tribes was Romanitas. More recently, Peter Brown and the study of Late Antiquity has highlighted this view. Rome left Western Europe a more complex place than it had originally conquered. Despite the various historical collapses, the general trend of history has been increasing complexity.
Why does this trend end with us? Because we have finally achieved a global civilization; we have finally eliminated the frontiers that allowed further complexity possible. We have farmed and depleted all of the arable land, we have mined all of the economic, near-surface ores, and we have brought together the entire world into a global system of complexity that must stand or fall as a single system. As Fred Hoyle wrote in Of Men and Galaxy, with the unfortunate cultural chauvinism of his time:
It has often been said that, if the human species fails to make a go of it here on Earth, some other species will take over the running. In the sense of developing high intelligence [sic] this is not correct. We have, or soon will have, exhausted the necessary physical prerequisites so far as this planet is concerned. With coal gone, oil gone, high-grade metallic ores gone, no species however competent can make the long climb from primitive conditions to high-level technology. This is a one-shot affair. If we fail, this planetary system fails so far as intelligence is concerned. The same will be true of other planetary systems. On each of them there will be one chance, and one chance only.
With our collapse, the trend of increasing social complexity ends as well, and the downward trend will be fast. Previous collapses were slower for the same reasons that they later allowed for recovery—because the larger arc of human social complexity had not yet peaked, because the earth had the resources to support still greater complexity. The downslope in our case will be much faster. Many will try homesteading, but homesteading requires healthy soils that we simply don’t have anymore. The loss of an industrial infrastructure will reduce metallurgy to scrap metal and eventually bog iron, and with diminished tools for metal-working and mining, even that will source will become increasingly difficult. Each shortfall accelerates the next. This has even been the trend in previous collapses. In “A Theory of Catabolic Collapse,” John Michael Greer highlighted the process by which this takes place:
A society that uses resources beyond replenishment rate (d(R)/r(R) > 1), when production of new capital falls short of maintenance needs, risks a depletion crisis in which key features of a maintenance crisis are amplified by the impact of depletion on production. As M(p) exceeds C(p) and capital can no longer be maintained, it is converted to waste and unavailable for use. Since depletion requires progressively greater investments of capital in production, the loss of capital affects production more seriously than in an equivalent maintenance crisis. Meanwhile further production, even at a diminished rate, requires further use of depleted resources, exacerbating the impact of depletion and the need for increased capital to maintain production. With demand for capital rising as the supply of capital falls, C(p) tends to decrease faster than M(p) and perpetuate the crisis. The result is a catabolic cycle, a self-reinforcing process in which C(p) stays below M(p) while both decline. Catabolic cycles may occur in maintenance crises if the gap between C(p) and M(p) is large enough, but tend to be self-limiting in such cases. In depletion crises, by contrast, catabolic cycles can proceed to catabolic collapse, in which C(p) approaches zero and most of a society’s capital is converted to waste.
In other words, just as a society’s anabolic growth is a self-reinforcing, positive feedback loop, so, too, is catabolic collapse: the fact that a society is in collapse makes it collapse more quickly. Such a system accelerates, building up speed as it continues, “snowballing” until they finally reach their completion—the next lowest level of sustainable complexity.
Humans are highly adaptable, and, as Toby Hemenway put it, a “Just-in-Time Species.” It would be shocking to think that we would not conserve, adapt, react and change anything and everything in response to such events. This is the economists’ argument in broad outline; the market can adapt to all needs, because once a need becomes strong enough, it spurs innovation to solve that need. Unfortunately, innovation has its limits. Humans will adapt, but the unfortunate truth is that there is no sustainable level of complexity for things to stablize above the stone age. First, we’ll cut back on our energy use as it becomes more expensive; when it becomes expensive enough, we’ll invest in more long-term energy-saving measures. When even that becomes too expensive, you’ll start to see significant changes happening.
The agrarian, homesteading ideal relies on soil quality that simply does not exist anymore. While some small, isolated pockets may succeed, these will be increasingly exceptional. Permaculture has much more promise, but permaculture settles into a horticultural lifestyle, supplemented by hunting and gathering, and supporting village life.
In cities, community gardens employed in a permaculture could form the basis of neighborhood communities; in that case, the post-Roman notion of “life in towns, not town life” would actually exist, with neighborhood “villages” that happen to exist near one another mirroring the “villages” of the Ik in Uganda, where people live in proximity, probably from a history of past village life, but no longer existing as any kind of village community. Such neighborhoods would inevitably go to war with one another (today’s neighborhood and street gang conflicts could easily provide a historical basis for escalating conflict), and gradually drive these villages further away from one another, settling perhaps into a pattern of village politics not unlike that found in contemporary horticultural societies.
There is plenty of scrap metal for the next century or so, but scrap metal rusts into a very poor ore. Longer term, bog iron will become the primary source of iron in the future. Bog iron is produced from bacteria that leave behind iron when they die, eventually forming significant ores. However, this requires iron to be harvested at a sustainable rate; the result in past societies that relied on bog iron was the elimination of iron as a socially important mineral. Instead, iron tools and weapons were so rare that they were treated as magical items, and the people who knew how to work iron were honored as a powerful kind of sorcerer. The story of Wayland Smith retains some memory of the lengths noblemen of such societies woul go to in order to keep control of their smiths.
In short, John Michael Greer was essentially correct when he wrote:
Civilizations fall in a stepwise fashion, with periods of crisis and contraction followed by periods of stability and partial recovery. The theory of catabolic collapse explains this as, basically, a matter of supply and demand; each crisis brings about a sharp decrease in the amount of capital (physical, human, social, and intellectual) that has to be maintained, and this frees up enough resources to allow effective crisis management, at least for a time. This same sequence is likely to repeat itself many times over the next few centuries, as industrial civilization slides down the slope of its own decline and fall.
In estimating this as “the next few centuries,” Greer simply overestimates (vastly) the resources available on the downwards slope—the scale of soil depletion, for example. While humans are highly adaptive creatures, we’re going to meet with the shocking surprise that our civilized past has left us with little to make the future out of. Each of those steps down are already eroded and diminished thanks to our civilized past. The agrarian future that so many Peak Oil theorists, from Greer to Kunstler, point towards will simply be impossible in the soils left in most of the world. The neo-feudal dark ages feared by others would similarly be betrayed, both by the lack of productive soils for serfs to work, as well as a quickly diminished supply of scrap metal for such a warrior aristocracy to base their power on. How long all this will take is impossible to say; 100 years seems likely, and 200 years seems too long. So, unless “the next few centuries” means one or two centuries, I believe Greer’s assessment is basically correct in general outline, but may significantly overestimate what our civilization leaves behind.
But if we focus again from the historian’s broad sweep of history down to a more personal level, we can also see that there is a significant difference between the disappearance of the last pockets of civilization, and the first areas opening up on the map again. Between 2012 and 2015, a whole constellation of problems will reach their inflection points at nearly the same time. Somewhere in that time frame, we will most likely experience our “apocalyptic shift,” the inflection point in the curve of the “long descent” that we will experience as the end of civilization. Civilization won’t disappear overnight, though it might feel like it had. By 2015, the trend of “the opening of the map” (basically “the closure of the map” run in reverse) should become increasingly relevant. The areas most difficult and marginal for civilization to exploit will become increasingly free of civilized influence, as the energy to exert power there will cease to exist. Long before civilization disappears, it will weaken. The space in which to live beyond civilization will open up long before the last city becomes a ruin. There are already some areas in the western half of North America where it is difficult to exert control; even in the east, one man was able to live in the Adirondacks for 20 years before he was caught. These spaces will grow as civilization collapses, and that growing alternative will provide one of the strongest accelerating trends in collapse. Historically, civilizations have never been able to tolerate other ways of life. The living example of life beyond civilization made it extraordinarily difficult to keep people from “going native.” The first colonists in the New World had “gone to Croatan” before the next boat from England arrived. Without the expanding energy base to exterminate such examples as civilizations did in the past, the example of a more human way of life will only further accelerate the accelerating trend of collapse.
Much of these disagreements come down to a difference of perspective. If we take the academic perspective of the historian, we can see the “long descent,” from the first signs of collapse in the nineteenth century, to the end of the very last city centuries from now. If, however, we take our own perspective as people living through collapse, we can see the inflection point quickly approaching, an event that we will no doubt experience as something very close to the apocalypse. For us, the most pertinent question is less when the last city will fall, but when the first spaces beyond civilization will begin to open up again.






Sorry, I forgot you weren’t finished yet…
This is a great little series, Jason!
For what it’s worth you’ve sold me on the theory that this collapse is a hundred years old already, a conclusion that wouldn’t have occurred to me for some time, slow on the uptake as I am
I just finished Manning’s ‘Against the Grain,’ and liked the symmetry he drew out of the population curve, nicely bisected by the ‘gear change’ of the green revolution as agriculture reached the final frontiers and turned back in on itself to fuel the last doubling of the billions. It’s almost like a hari-kiri!
I wonder what the UK is going to look like in 20 years’ time. It seems like we might have a bit more trouble getting away from the killing fields, our overall population density being considerably higher than America’s. Plus all our woodland being bulldozed for motorways and airport expansions, or auctioned off to supermarkets and industrial developers…
I’m not sure what kind of megafaunal heritage we’ve had recently built in to our island’s ecosystems. Perhaps the woolly mammoths will come back if the Gulf Stream conks out and dumps us in a mini ice-age?
Do you know if anyone’s doing more than speculation on this topic?
Comment by Ian M — 15 June 2007 @ 3:26 PM
Actually, I had been. You convinced me it needed a proper conclusion, so I added this one later.
I don’t know much about Europe’s situation in general, but from this side of the pond, it sure doesn’t look good. Maybe that’s because I don’t have the proper perspective, or maybe Europe’s—pardon my French, but—fucked.
There was actually a species of lion that was around in the British Isles right into the 1000’s, actually. But global warming’s probably going to slice the UK up into a pretty chaotic archipelago, too.
Sorry, but if you find one, let me know. It’ll help when I get to the “Western Cities” section in the “Shape of Collapse” series.
Comment by Jason Godesky — 15 June 2007 @ 3:33 PM
Oh, okay. I got the impression there were always going to be 5. Glad to be of service then, I guess (again)
Actually there was an initiative a couple of years ago to reintroduce wolves, bears, lynx, wild boar and even bison to the Scots highlands. I don’t know if it ever got off the ground or no though. Here’s George Monbiot’s article from 2004:
http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2004/12/07/bring-them-back/
You might want to check out another of Monbiot’s endorsements, ‘Soil and Soul’ by Alistair McIntosh, for more positive developments coming from North of Hadrian’s Wall. Here’s his site:
http://www.alastairmcintosh.com/soilandsoul.htm
“A pretty chaotic archipelago” - hmm, sounds like the perfect spot for marauding gangs of pirates - I should brush up my sailing skills.
“[M]aybe Europe’s—pardon my French, but—fucked” - Hey, that’s nice and encouraging isn’t it! Here I was under the Kunstler-fueled impression that we would be better off owing to our relative lack of suburban sprawl. He never convinced me that we would be heading back to a golden age of walkable, relatively cannibalism-free urban centres, but still, I figured we’d at least have some time to observe how your shit hit the fan. The global peer polity doesn’t collapse overnight in one fell swoop, right?
Will let you know if I come across any more.
Comment by Ian M — 15 June 2007 @ 4:19 PM
On the reintroduction efforts, seems like it might not be necessary. Take a look at the horse. Horses evolved in the Americas, and from here crossed over Beringia into Asia. Then the land bridge closed up, and the native American horse died out. Ten thousand years later, some Spaniards trying to settle Argentina left behind 15 horses. Because they were already adapted to the environment (being originally from there), well … as Manning wrote in Against the Grain:
So, here you have landscapes that were home to all kinds of Pleistocene megafauna, and modern relatives—elephants, lions and so on—living in zoos and the hunting ranches of the rich. We have lots of these ranches in Texas, Colorado, and so on, where rich men have zebra herds, elephants and all manner of exotic animals brought in to hunt. As collapse progresses, some of these animals will escape. Not a lot, but some. As the example of the Spanish horse illustrates, when you’re talking about a close relative returning to a bioregion where there was once a niche, that can be all you need for a shockingly quick population explosion as just a few escaped animals produce enormous herds that fill the vacuum.
As for Europe’s chances, I did say it could just be that I don’t have a proper perspective.
Comment by Jason Godesky — 15 June 2007 @ 4:34 PM
Yeah, that was the effect I was wondering about, I just wasn’t sure what niches might be open in Britain when the map ‘opens up’. It does make for more fascinating speculation when you think of all the exotic species currently moping around in our zoos. What kind of fluke adaptations might occur? Emus roving Dartmoor stalked by Siberian Tigers?
I +hope+ you don’t have the proper perspective
Comment by Ian M — 15 June 2007 @ 4:54 PM
Hey Jason!
Great piece!
But, I remain critical of your Iron reasoning.
[quote=”Jason”]There is plenty of scrap metal for the next century or so, but scrap metal rusts into a very poor ore. Longer term, bog iron will become the primary source of iron in the future.[/quote]
I disputed this with you already here: http://anthropik.com/2006/03/correction-to-thesis-29-post-collapse-metals/
Rust is actually a very high quality ore. Rusting, in fact, is a form of iron purification, as the iron will rust out leaving behind many impurities. Thus, iron in the future will not be limited by access to ore. Whether or not we have the energy to smelt the iron, on the other hand is an open question. But if the Kwakwaliwik and Copper Inuit could smelt copper, it seems likely that semi-sedentary permaculturalists will be able to smelt iron. And since we’ve done all the hard work of mining ores from the earth and concentrating them in cities…
[quote=”Jason”]there is no sustainable level of complexity for things to stablize above the stone age.[/quote] I donno. Horticulture + already mined metals = ???
[quote=”Jason”]Such neighborhoods would inevitably go to war with one another (today’s neighborhood and street gang conflicts could easily provide a historical basis for escalating conflict)[/quote] Brilliant point!
Comment by MatthewJ — 15 June 2007 @ 5:36 PM
If that were true, why would we be mining iron ore, rather than using all that higher-quality rusted metal from the scrapyards already? There are three reasons.
Which is to say, whatever purification might take place in rusting, the process still involves such degradation of the metal as a source for reworking, that you’re dealing with a significantly lower-quality ore. That’s certainly what the blacksmiths I’ve asked have told me. It works, and for an individual project it can work great, but you’re not going to scale it up to the point where it’s a regular feature of society.
To say nothing of the fact that the vast majority of the iron we’ve mined and used has been alloyed. You’re not going to get iron back out of those alloys, they’re chemically bonded now. And the alloys have much higher melting points. You can work iron in a primitively-fuelded fire, but not steel. As for smelting copper, copper is much easier to work than iron.
Which gets us to the point about the stone age. If iron tools exist, but they’re so rare that they’re considered “magical,” is that really an iron age society, or is it a stone age society? Horticulture, of course, was used in the last stone age, too.
Comment by Jason Godesky — 15 June 2007 @ 5:58 PM
Great series Jason.
From your observations and predictions, where do you think the map will open up first when civilizations starts its “budget cutting”? Will it be where the food trucks can no longer afford to travel? The Great Plains post-green revolution? The satellite nations and protectorates of the U.S.?
I’m most likely going to practice permaculture, H/G, tool-making etc. at home in the Northeast, but it would be good to know where the map might open up to maybe get a one-up before the gears start falling apart.
Comment by Dan — 16 June 2007 @ 11:19 PM
I don’t think this necessarily follows. If we’re agreed that the charge of empire is to extract resources from the “periphery” to be consumed in the “core”, it should be possible to chart the ratio of energy invested by the imperial powers to energy extracted from the subject peoples.
If you were to compare this ratio between, let’s say, the pre-World-War-I era and the post-Bandung era, it seems entirely plausible to me that the latter era has seen a more efficient stealing of resources that the former — “independence” notwithstanding. I don’t know this by any stretch of the imagination. But, as I say, it’s at the very least plausible.
Of course, it looks, just in recent years, as though the empire is finally slipping out of control.
Whatever the Vietnam war may have cost the empire, it seems certain enough that it scared the Third World shitless enough to accept without much resistance their virtual re-colonisation at the hands of Volker’s unilateral raising of interest rates. Yet to-day we see movement in the opposite direction, even in the wake of the massive devastation visited upon Iraq.
This may surely be seen as a sign of collapse. I would suggest that, at least according to this one aspect of the issue, the collapse began sometime after the conclusion of the Vietnam war.
Also, are we certain that decolonisation signaled a loss of complexity? Again, I’ve no numbers to make the comparison, but it seems to me that the level of complexity required to maintain the imperial relations may well have increased. Think of, for example, the U.S. military bases ringing the world; or the number of bureaucrats in the employ of the IMF and World Bank.
Duncan places the peak of energy production per capita at 1979. Perhaps this was the beginning of the collapse? At any rate, I would’ve liked to’ve seen more “math” in this series.
That said, the beginning point of the collapse doesn’t really matter much, because, as you say:
Comment by Eddie — 17 June 2007 @ 12:09 AM
Great article, Jason. Some of this might be over my head, but it’s good to meet people thinking at this level of complexity about these issues. I admit having a family with a child, this kind of stuff is depressing, but I can’t just look the other way.
How do adapt to this coming new world will be a challenge, I admit I’m not sure I’ll be up to.
Comment by Aron — 17 June 2007 @ 4:56 PM
My basic rule of thumb is, “wherever it closed last, and for the very same reasons.” I’m bound to the Tuppeek-hanne (a.k.a., the “Clarion River”), which might not seem like such a great spot at first blush. It’s within a day’s drive of half the U.S. population. And yet, the map closed in most of the American West before it closed on the Tuppeek-hanne. That’s because it’s up on the Allegheny Plateau, with poor soils and a short growing season. It took railroads to close the map here, just as much as it took railroads to close the map in the West. Now there’s highways. As first the highways, and then the railroads, stop being economical, the map is going to open up here. Hordes from Pittsburgh or Buffalo coming to deforest my home? How are they planning on getting it all back home? The rivers are great for that, but the Tuppeek-hanne has seen lumbermen like that before, and the economics of that business made it too inefficient to cause any major damage.
So, when you’re looking for where the map will open up first, my rule is, look for where it closed last.
It was Tainter who offered the most widely-accepted definition of collapse: “the sudden loss of an established level of complexity.” A proliferation of independent countries is, by that definition, the most direct evidence of collapse one could ask for.
Both of these pale by comparison to the imperial apparatus of the old European empires. Neocolonialism is more subtle. Territorial empires always involve more complexity than hegemonic empires. The imperial government oversaw several provincial governments; independence turned those provincial governments into governments in their own right, and the former imperial government became a peer, effectively simply eliminating the imperial level of complexity–which was a far more significant body than the IMF, World Bank, U.N., or any of the modern shadows of former imperialism.
Even on your proposed level of how much energy the core can extract from the periphery, there has been a significant drop. Even if extraction had continued apace, the simple fact that some amount of energy had to go into maintaining the newly independent governments would represent a reduction in energy exported to the core. But in fact, most have not produced as much as they did as colonies, and the rampant corruption in most post-colonial governments increases their cost even more.
Aron, consider this. What is more depressing: collapse, or the alternative? Collapse will be terrible for the people who hitch their lives to civilization to the bitter end–but what about those who don’t need it? Those who leave it behind? For them, collapse will open the first windows of opportunity to live a human life without being annihilated. You have kids–and because civilization is killing itself, all you need is to sever the ties that bind you to it, and your children will actually get to live as human beings, without being dehumanized.
You’re a human being. You’re up to it. It’s everything you were born to do, the way you were born to live. The universe spent three million years making you perfect for this kind of life. That’s what you’ve got inside you, and what your kids have inside of them.
Comment by Jason Godesky — 17 June 2007 @ 10:09 PM
Deindustrialization and urban decay in the US starting in the ’70s can also be seen as another sign of collapse.
Comment by J — 18 June 2007 @ 12:12 AM
Good series. Collapse is, of course, bad for the many billions of lives made possible by civilization. That’s depressing. The Allegheny Plateau is marginal even for a tribal lifestyle. Successful hunters need large, overtakeable game. Only deer come to mind and their large populations are a product of agriculture.
Comment by brent — 18 June 2007 @ 1:45 PM
Collapse will be bad for the billions of humans who depend on the civilization that’s collapsing. Of course, a lack of collapse is bad for the billions of live destroyed every day to keep civilization going.
The Allegheny Plateau was once prime hunting grounds for the Seneca. The old growth forest supported about 10 deer per square mile. Today’s herd is many times that, and deer overpopulation is a huge ecological problem. That situation won’t last forever, but we’ll at least have abundant food in our first decades. As a healthier ecosystem takes hold, we’ll have all manner of game. There’s already turkeys, bear and all kinds of small game up there, and there’s even the elk herd that was reintroduced. Especially with the permaculture we’re experimenting with, “marginal” is not the first word that comes to mind, even in today’s “endangered forest.”
Comment by Jason Godesky — 18 June 2007 @ 1:53 PM
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I’m not saying I don’t believe you — just that I’d like to see the numbers…
Comment by Eddie — 18 June 2007 @ 9:05 PM
Jason, very good post! Especially like you’re you’re rollaer-coaster analogy!
I suppose, taking this thought to a more personal level, has basically the same feel for the individual when collaspe hits. Some will hang on society to the bitter end, some not knowing of another way. As for me, it’ll be alot like Steve McQueen in the movie, “Papallion”, taking the big plunge with my little raft.
I expect, this will be people’s number one decision in life. Get busy living, or get busy dieing…………………Also like in “Papalion”, when Dustin Hoffman asked the question, “Do you think you’ll make it?” McQueen answers, “Does it matter?”
Comment by yooper — 19 June 2007 @ 6:26 AM
Hi Jason
Welcome back with the nice new format, but any chance of a better contrast between the light-green background and the only-slightly-darker-green-and-fairly-small-at-that font? “My eyes, my beautiful eyes!”
Anyway, I found you another British commentator on this topic also leaning towards the ‘fucked’ verdict. A worker in the oil industry who wrote in to Jim Kunstler here:
This isn’t great news. I wish I knew what the best plan of action was. Find a permaculture guru somewhere and try to educate all the people in my Dunbar Number? Or should I skip that and go straight to the wild edibles as I prepare to run for the hills? Yeah, I know, probably both
It’s not exactly pleasant to have that running commentary as one walks about town going: ‘Yeah, you know that’s not gonna survive. No that won’t make it either. And see that? That’ll probably all be gone in ten years’ time’. Some of these are things that I would be glad to see the back of, but then I start looking at the people in the street as if they were non-swimmers on a ship they didn’t realise was sinking, and then it’s a whole different ballgame…
Comment by Ian M — 7 September 2007 @ 10:28 AM